FGD: Opening the Pre-Season with the Oilers & Weekend Open Thread

Ryan Pike
September 14 2013 02:10PM

Flames Vs Oilers

Well, hockey returns to our beloved Scotiabank Saddledome on a Saturday night, in the form of a pre-season battle between the Flames and Edmonton Oilers.

In this special kick-off to the pre-season calendar for both clubs, there's a 7pm game in Calgary (broadcast via Sportsnet 960 The Fan) and an 8pm game in Edmonton (brought to you by 630 CHED).

It's my understanding that the Oilers site is streaming the Edmonton game and the Flames site is streaming the Calgary game. Both teams are hoping to come away with a pair of wins and a lot of understanding about where their players fit into their NHL line-ups. Here's a look at what's happening in Calgary.

THE LINE-UP

As per Pat Steinberg, the lines for the Flames:

  • Glencross – Stajan – Stempniak
  • Cammalleri – Backlund – D. Jones
  • Ferland – Monahan – Poirier
  • B. Jones – Knight – Nemisz
  • Giordano – Brodie
  • Culkin – O'Brien
  • Sieloff – Ramage
  • MacDonald
  • Ortio

It's a mostly NHL line-up (two NHL lines, an NHL D-pairing, the NHL back-up...), along with some interesting prospects. That third line could be killer, as well as the third blueline pairing. Here's the first big test for Ryan Culkin to see if he's pro-ready yet. In a fun bit of trivia, John Ramage's first exhibition game is in the Saddledome, where his dad played – and he'll probably pass the 1989 Stanley Cup photo outside the locker room on the way to the ice. And it's a great test for Monahan, who's been fantastic in camp thus far.

For the curious, the fellas not playing in either pre-season are goalie Laurent Brossoit, blueliners Chad Billins, Mark Cundari, James Martin, Brady Lamb, Eric Roy, Tyler Wotherspoon, Chris Breen and Zach McKelvie, and forwards Max Reinhart, Turner Elson, Coda Gordon, David Eddy, Brett Olson, Steve Begin, Morgan Klimchuk and Carter Bancks. Outside of Elson, Reinhart, Roy, Breen, Gordon and Klimchuk, who are all injured, it's a lot of try-out players and guys on the AHL fringes. And Wotherspoon and Billins, oddly, though they may be victims of the numbers game in terms of able blueliners.

THE OPPOSITION

Via the Oilers Twitter account, their lines in Calgary:

  • Hamilton – Gagner – Eberle
  • Jones – Gordon – Perron
  • Eager – Acton – Pitlick
  • Bilcke – Ewanyk – Chase
  • Smid – Petry
  • N. Schultz – Fedun
  • Larsen – Marincin
  • LaBarbera
  • Bachman

A bit more of a youngster-filled roster for the Oilers. There are a few stars here (Gagner, Eberle, Perron and Schultz), but generally a test for how their newer players can handle a trip into a hostile building against a more veteran-laden club. And Hitmen forward Greg Chase, chosen by the Oilers in the seventh round in the 2013 draft, makes his exhibition debut in the building he always plays in. Nice touch there, too.

SUM IT UP

Two games in two cities between the same two teams is a fun way to kick off the pre-season. The Flames would love to get some winning into their system early-on, particularly against the Oilers. The countdown to the regular season continues.

Check out OilersNation for the dumbed-down preview regarding the game in Shelbyville.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#51 Jeff In Lethbridge
September 15 2013, 09:15AM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

I find it interesting that the game I expected for the flames to win was the home one and they lost, and somehow they won in Edmonton. I only listened to the first period of the home game so I don't have a real feel for who played well. Reading the news on the Flames it sounds like Poirier grew as the game progressed; good for him. I wonder what the line up will look like for the next one, Hope Ramo gets better.

flames dominated in Calgary, but gave away two free goals they'd like to have back

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#52 Bezer
September 15 2013, 09:11PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Just throwing it out there, but Zemgus Girgensons has 2 goals tonight in the BUF-MON game. One of them a shortie.

Where is the Big Jankowski right now?

Nichushkin also had 2 for Dallas.

I'm so damn excited for hockey, I don't even care if the Flames go 0-82. Well... maybe.

Or Teuvo Teravainen apparently he has been outstanding.

I know it is easy to go 20/20 hindsight but he was my choice for the Flames to pick. He sure would add some much needed depth to the RW.

Although I am a huge fan of Seiloff which you can't discount when talking about trading down for Jankowski

Anyway I have been pleasantly surprised by Granlund. Also Horak, I hope he takes a big step forward this year.

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#53 McRib
September 17 2013, 09:18AM
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@the forgotten man

Valeri Nichushkin has one good exhibition game and everyone looses their minds.... You are aware of why he fell on draft day?!?!?!

He refused to lift a weight at the combine and would only interview with select teams, doesn't sound like a team player to me!! Also how do you know what went on in the Flames interview room, maybe we were one of the teams he refused to even sit down with.... I know a big reason the Stars signed Sergei Gonchar was to convince his agent they were serious by bringing in other Russians. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want the Flames drafting a Russian that doesn't want to play for us. We can just ask Columbus/Nashville how that goes.

Not to mention Sean Monahan is a much more complete player (Better Hockey IQ, defensive play, character, etc) with similar offensive upside. Lets see how Nichushkin does against full rosters before freaking out over a couple goals.

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#54 FireOnIce
September 14 2013, 02:46PM
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@Dr. Bob

Game in EDM is being streamed on the Oilers' website, and the game in CGY is being streamed on the Flames' website.

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#55 Sean Bennett
September 14 2013, 03:29PM
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Game in EDM is being streamed on the Oilers' website, and the game in CGY is being streamed on the Flames' website.

When you go to both official sites, they claim they are streaming only the Edmonton home game. Nobody will be streaming the Calgary home game.

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#56 FireOnIce
September 14 2013, 04:30PM
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@Sean Bennett

That wasn't what I'd originally heard, but it appears that way now.

Weird that the Calgary one isn't being streamed.

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#57 Dr. Bob
September 14 2013, 07:44PM
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Not sure why i cant get this streaming to work in firefox anybody else having problems? I have no audio or visual. Thanks

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#58 Luc
September 14 2013, 07:57PM
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Not sure why i cant get this streaming to work in firefox anybody else having problems? I have no audio or visual. Thanks

mine was working fine (no commentary) so im hoping its just because its intermission

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#59 beloch
September 14 2013, 07:59PM
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I'm watching the game but listening to the fan960 broadcast for the play-by-play. They just said Ortio is going to replace MacBackup halfway through the second. Good news! Or bad, if you want to see the Flames pick high this season. MacBackup getting backup duty instead of Ortio would easily move us up a couple of pick slots.

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#60 RexLibris
September 14 2013, 09:22PM
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Nice speed on the attack by both Street and Byron.

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#61 RexLibris
September 14 2013, 09:27PM
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Any thoughts on the G1 performance of the Flames?

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#62 Kharri789
September 14 2013, 09:51PM
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At least Baertschi got a point. :)

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#63 beloch
September 14 2013, 10:27PM
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If Berra gets any NHL ice-time this year I bet he gets labelled "barely" Berra for good.

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#64 coachedpotatoe
September 15 2013, 08:15AM
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I find it interesting that the game I expected for the flames to win was the home one and they lost, and somehow they won in Edmonton. I only listened to the first period of the home game so I don't have a real feel for who played well. Reading the news on the Flames it sounds like Poirier grew as the game progressed; good for him. I wonder what the line up will look like for the next one, Hope Ramo gets better.

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#65 Kevin R
September 15 2013, 09:29AM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

I find it interesting that the game I expected for the flames to win was the home one and they lost, and somehow they won in Edmonton. I only listened to the first period of the home game so I don't have a real feel for who played well. Reading the news on the Flames it sounds like Poirier grew as the game progressed; good for him. I wonder what the line up will look like for the next one, Hope Ramo gets better.

Maybe Burke is on to something? :-}

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#66 piscera.infada
September 15 2013, 06:32PM
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beloch wrote:

How doable is it to improve a player like Kanzig's skating? Could the Kinesiology people at the U give him exercises that might help him improve his stride?

I'm sure skating will be the number one priority for him as far as training goes. He's said in interviews it's something he knows he needs to improve if he wants to make it in the NHL.

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#67 exsanguinator
September 15 2013, 07:25PM
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How doable is it to improve a player like Kanzig's skating? Could the Kinesiology people at the U give him exercises that might help him improve his stride?

Lots and lots and lots of power skating lessons would be my guess.

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#68 Avalain
September 16 2013, 10:49AM
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RexLibris wrote:

Unlikely. I think the Eskimos may continue that 1st overall draft pick tradition this year.

Now, if Burke wants to swap 1st round picks with Ed Hervey I'd be alright with that.

Well, my comment is more than a little tongue-in-cheek. I'm just following up the "plan the parade" line of thinking...

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#69 al russell
September 18 2013, 02:29PM
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just moved from edmonton to claresholm.as long as kevin lowe is running the show the flames should finish around the same spot.not sure how the oil think that the same crew that drove the bus off the cliff in 07 can be magically reassembled with different titles and expect any change.still as soft as Charmin but at least we dont have to worry Robin Regher anymore.

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