FGD: In (Prospect) Enemy Territory

Ryan Pike
September 06 2013 03:45PM

 

 

Last night, the Calgary Flames got the YoungStars event off to a wonderful start. How? Well, they beat the Oilers by a 5-2 score and largely out-played their neighbours to the north. The challenge for the boys in red will be to continue that momentum one day later, as they face the Vancouver Canucks prospects at 8:30pm MT. While you can experience the action via a stream from the Flames website (or on Sportsnet 960 The Fan), bear in mind that the BC crowd will probably be cheering on the Canucks.

In other words, the boys are in enemy territory and will have to fight their way out.

THE LINE-UP

Courtesy Sportsnet 960 The Fan's Pat Steinberg, the lines for this evening:
 

  • Max Reinhart – Josh Jooris – Linden Penner
  • Michael Ferland – Sean Monahan – Dylan Smoskowitz
  • Ben Hanowski – Markus Granlund – Emile Poirier
  • Turner Elson – Corban Knight – Sven Baertschi
  • Keegan Kanzig – Ryan Culkin
  • Zach Davies – Tyler Wotherspoon
  • Eric Roy – John Ramage

 
Joni Ortio gets the start. Sitting tonight are Kulak, Sieloff, Taranto and Gordon. Keep your eyes peeled for the Hanowski/Granlund/Poirier line, as they all had pretty strong showings against the Oilers. The Elson/Knight/Sven pairing also looks to be quite interesting.

Eric Roy gets his first taste of action tonight. The 5th rounder is a high octane offensive defender, so it will be interesting to see how he fares tonight.

Disappointing -  try-out Smoskowitz isn't playing on the same line as Hanowski.

THE OPPOSITION

The Canucks are coming off a 4-3 win against the Sharks in the late game yesterday but, surprisingly, aren't making huge changes to their line-up. While no lines are available seemingly anywhere, we're told (via the Canucks site) that Joacim Eriksson will probably start again after putting up a great showing last night.
 
Keep an eye out for the line of Bo Horvat, Hunter Shinkaruk and Zach Hall up front, while blueliners Frankie Corrado, Evan McEneny, Miles Liberati and forward Alex Friesen will suit up for the first time in the tournament. Notably not playing is Brendan Gaunce, although he's merely a healthy scratch so fresh bodies can cycle in.

SUM IT UP

Both the Flames and Canucks are coming off morale-boosting victories last night. Now, one of them will have to taste the not-so-refreshing spice of defeat. Calgary's gambling on Joni Ortio having a strong re-introduction to North America, while the Canucks are gambling that their young group of blueliners can hold back Calgary's offensive onslaught.
 
Needless to say, the Canucks probably have a better blueline here than Edmonton did last night. The big question is “how much better?” Oh, and the whole Ortio thing. He wasn't good when he was with the Heat, but he's had a lot of success in Europe.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 Demetric
September 06 2013, 04:04PM
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Disappointing - try-out Smoskowitz isn't playing on the same line as Hanowski. - Why?

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#2 MonsterPod
September 06 2013, 04:10PM
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For all the hype around Calgary's draft this year, which had no 2nd or 4th round pick, I'm curious to see who had the better draft between the Flames and Nucks in the future. Flames took Monahan, then Poirier. Nucks took Horvat, then Shinkaruk. Time will tell who is the better center between Monahan and Horvat. We also got Klimchuk who I guess we can compare to whoever the Nucks took in the second round in what was supposedly a deep draft. We'll see.

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#3 Skuehler
September 06 2013, 04:31PM
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While it is fun to compare individual players as their careers ebb and flow through injuries, different linemates, etc vs who we could have gotten instead, I think what impressed me most last night in the first and third periods was the instant chemistry, speed and passing on display. If this group comes up together with good leadership, that is way more exciting than the Poirier/Shinkaruk debate. I think that was Svens problem last night - impressive quickness and skilled feet and hands, but he didn't seem to connect very well and certainly didn't dominate against weak competition. A fifty point season against men this year? Not sure about that one.

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#4 beloch
September 06 2013, 05:08PM
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"After a mostly one-sided, choppy affair between Edmonton and Calgary, the first shift of the Vancouver game felt like watching a different league. The game was very near NHL pace and physicality from the puck drop, and the star power of the Canucks forwards was on display through all three periods. "

A quote from yesterday thanks to our frenemies over on canuckleheadarmy.

IT'S ON $#@*?ES!!!

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#5 EugeneV
September 06 2013, 07:38PM
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Demetric wrote:

Disappointing - try-out Smoskowitz isn't playing on the same line as Hanowski. - Why?

for the commentary flub ups.

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#6 Big Ell
September 06 2013, 08:37PM
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With GameCenter I can usually avoid Rob Kerr's nasally voice and pronunciation by choosing the other feed. No such luck this morning.

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#7 Big Ell
September 06 2013, 08:47PM
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Who is the color commentator?

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#8 Big Ell
September 06 2013, 08:55PM
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"I'm minding my PK's and my Subbans," Rob Kerr. Please kill me.

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#9 aloudoun
September 06 2013, 09:04PM
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Granlund and Reinhart are looking really good out there.

I cant see Monahan staying up, not that he has been bad or anything. I just think its better to give him another year in junior and a chance to be a big part of Canadas team at World Juniors seems the better route...

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#10 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:06PM
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Subban owns the powerplay.

Kanzig looks pretty good. Showed some wheels on that 4 on 4.

Oh and Poirier gets another breakaway. So far, he looks waaaaaaaaaaay better than Shinkaruk. Hunter's invisible.

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#11 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:09PM
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0 - 0 after one. Joni Ortio is the only reason it's still tied.

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#12 Big Ell
September 06 2013, 09:09PM
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For the most part they didn't look very good that period.

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#13 Kent Wilson
September 06 2013, 09:11PM
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Not a great period for the Flames kids in the first, aside from Ortio (who was outstanding). Granlund and Reinhart had a few good shifts and Poirier with a nice play on the PK to draw and penalty and almost get a break away.

Sven's been invisible so far. It's only been 4 periods so it's not a big deal, but disappointing anyways.

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#14 Kent Wilson
September 06 2013, 09:12PM
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@Big Ell

Robby has been painful so far this evening.

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#15 funkyjaman
September 06 2013, 09:17PM
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Not impressed with Sven's compete level thus far this tourney. I expect more from a future top 6 forward. Liking what I'm seeing from Reinhart/ Granlund/ Ortio.

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#16 Kent Wilson
September 06 2013, 09:21PM
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@funkyjaman

Forget future...he's expected to battle for that role this season.

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#17 schevvy
September 06 2013, 09:26PM
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I was really surprised that Sven got asked to go to this camp

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#18 Sean Bennett
September 06 2013, 09:27PM
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KANZIG CAN ACTUALLY SKATE!!!!!!!! All kidding aside, the kid`s looked good through 4 periods. He has decent defensive awareness, is physical, and will drop the gloves at the slightest hint of being obliged.

I predict he will be a Burkie fav in the future.

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#19 Big Ell
September 06 2013, 09:30PM
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@Sean Bennett

Plus it sounds like he is in great shape with 7% body fat.

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#20 Clyde
September 06 2013, 09:30PM
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Is there any feed other than the one on the Calgary flames site. I'm only getting sound

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#21 Kent Wilson
September 06 2013, 09:32PM
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Awful own zone give away by Baertschi leading to a glorious chance against. He's having a terrible evening.

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#22 Sean Bennett
September 06 2013, 09:34PM
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Poirier has great speed. Involved in the play all over the ice.

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#23 funkyjaman
September 06 2013, 09:36PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Forget future...he's expected to battle for that role this season.

Sad.

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#24 funkyjaman
September 06 2013, 09:36PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Forget future...he's expected to battle for that role this season.

Sad.

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#25 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:37PM
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C'mon Flames! We can't have those Canucks fans getting their arrogance validated!

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#26 Sean Bennett
September 06 2013, 09:37PM
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Holy crap, that Vancouver player is lucky Ferland didn`t connect flush with his punches or is hockey career may have been over.

Ferland: another Burkie fav in the making. Truculence to spare, that one.

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#27 Sean Bennett
September 06 2013, 09:42PM
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Nice give and go by Poirier and Monahan

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#28 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:45PM
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Really missing Brett Kulak on the blueline IMO. Need that calm steadiness.

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#29 Clyde
September 06 2013, 09:47PM
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Sean Bennett wrote:

Holy crap, that Vancouver player is lucky Ferland didn`t connect flush with his punches or is hockey career may have been over.

Ferland: another Burkie fav in the making. Truculence to spare, that one.

How have the Flames done since the fight?

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#30 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:48PM
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Somoskowitz from Eric Roy, powerplay. Okay, need about six more of those.

Oye. About five tries, and Kerr has yet to say it right.

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#31 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:48PM
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@Clyde

Much better. Ferland picked the right moment.

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#32 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 09:54PM
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BABY! John Ramage, laserbeam, top corner.

See that, Granlund? That's supposed to be your job.

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#33 Clyde
September 06 2013, 09:54PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

Much better. Ferland picked the right moment.

But, you can't measure the impact Ferland,s grit made so it isn't useful. Lol

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#34 Bezer
September 06 2013, 10:03PM
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Nice game by Roy tonight. Decent showing for a 5th rounder. A very poised D man

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#35 Sean Bennett
September 06 2013, 10:03PM
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IMO, the best player through two periods has been Poirier, followed by Reinhart and Ramage. Monahan has had his moments, as well.

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#36 Kent Wilson
September 06 2013, 10:07PM
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@Clyde

Baertschi finally with a good shift near the end of the period there.

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#37 clyde
September 06 2013, 10:09PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Baertschi finally with a good shift near the end of the period there.

I think/hope he will be much better at main camp as I have gone on record as saying he will be a 50 point guy.

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#38 beloch
September 06 2013, 10:10PM
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I have a feeling the Heat are going to have freakin' great goal-tending this year. Ortio is not going to make the choice of starter easy for Ward. Heck, the Flames (not that they want the help) might be better off calling up Brossoit or Ortio to spell Ramo instead of letting MacBackup stink up the crease!

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#39 beloch
September 06 2013, 10:16PM
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What's Ramage's ceiling? His stat-sheet doesn't paint a picture of a future NHL'er. He's not big for a defender and hasn't put up impressive offense for a defender either. He's been a stand-out so far at this prospect tournament, but he's also 22. He's definitely showing some leadership qualities though. At this point, I bet he'll be a fine AHL'er at the very least!

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#40 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 10:16PM
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Some thoughts on the Canucks (for no reason):

Horvat - mostly unnoticeable. When I do notice him, it's because he does something sneaky good (like he did on that goal).

Shinkaruk - One or two good shifts in the offensive zone, otherwise completely inferior to Poirier.

Corrado - Hard to dislike this guy. All around solid player, sort of like Tanev.

Subban - Terrifying. Never let him handle the puck. Ever.

Cassels - Good, solid center. Makes good plays at both ends and always seems to be around the Flames' net.

Franson - Odd that he's undrafted, because he's pretty good. Of course, I once had similarly high praise for a guy named Kellan Tochkin at one of these tournaments.

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#41 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 10:18PM
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Wow. Roy on the powerplay, Ferland to Monahan on the two-on-one, suddenly the Flames are up by three.

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#42 aloudoun
September 06 2013, 10:22PM
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Shinkaruk who?

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#43 prendrefeu
September 06 2013, 10:24PM
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Poirier > Shinky

Oh, and #GRITCHART lookin' good.

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#44 FireOnIce
September 06 2013, 10:24PM
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Shinkaruk smashes his stick like a child. Again, there's a reason many teams passed on him.

I would expect Horvat to be the best player on the ice at every game. Given that the Canucks traded away their possible #1 goalie for him, he'd better be good. Looks like he needs to pick up the consistency.

Not too worried by Baertschi not showing much at this tournament. Why was he even invited? It's NHL time for him, and if he can't hack it, his stock will plummet big time. I think he knows that, and I don't think he's too worried about showing that he's awesome against other prospects. NHL is where he has to prove himself this season.

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#45 FireOnIce
September 06 2013, 10:28PM
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WOW. Ortio channels his inner Kiprusoff. He looks real good.

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#46 Avalain
September 06 2013, 10:28PM
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Wow, Ortio is looking good!

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#47 schevvy
September 06 2013, 10:32PM
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Kerr is brutal tonight

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#48 Baalzamon
September 06 2013, 10:39PM
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Poirier definitely has some Alex Tanguay in him. ALL the breakaways.

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#49 everton fc
September 06 2013, 10:39PM
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If Ferland and Roy both make it, they'll be solid on the same team. Good friends. Roy's the stable one.

I still say Ferland's a 3rd line NHLr someday. You all know I love Dorsett. Ferland will be better.

Good to hear about Roy. And Ramage. Sven seems to be a bit soft. Poirier seems to be a potential gem.

Ferland's playing LW, correct? Would love to see him on the same line w/Poirier.

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#50 Clyde
September 06 2013, 10:39PM
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Poirier looks great again

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