Observations from Penticton: Flames Capitalize on Confused Oilers

Kevin McCartney
September 07 2013 10:37AM

Photo by Darren Kirby

The Nations Network sent some Jets Nation writers to the Young Stars Tournament in Penticton, BC. They're judging your team and bringing you the view from the Press Box.

With all the talk of rekindling the Battle of Alberta from Edmonton fans, the opening of the Young Stars tournament was a joyful shot across the bow for the Flames. Their team box remained full and talkative all through the Vancouver/San Jose game, long after even Edmonton Head Scout Stu MacGregor had left the building. The 5-2 score was generous to the Oilers who benefited from an own goal by Ryan Culkin and were out-shot 32-18. Below we'll look at some noteable players and the game they had.

The Oilers forwards are among the least skilled group in the tournament on paper, and weren’t much better on the ice in this game. However, it’s important Flames fans not extrapolate too much about the relative talent in the teams’ respective development systems. It was clear that the Oilers struggled with disorganization and poor defensive coverage by their centreman, and played the game with 6 left-handed defencemen. All of Klefbom, Marincin, and Musil played their off-hand sides and particularly Klefbom and Musil struggled with the assignment. That said, the Flames offence took clear advantage and, in particular, the line of Monahan-Poirier-Elson was dominant almost every shift.

If timing is all there is to offence, Monahan is a stud already. He and Poirier showed impressive chemistry, but it was obvious who stirred the offence on that line. Poirier attacked the net with zeal all night, frustrating Bunz and the Oiler defenders, but it was Monahan who drew double coverage, protected the puck down low, and generated chances into the slot all game. Most impressively, Monahan seemed to have an intuitive sense for both the timing and placement of his passes through throngs of sticks and skates, rarely needing to look at his intended target. Though the Oilers were disorganized, it was this line that turned that into a thing of beauty. Granlund and Baertschi were consistently impressive as well, while Corban Knight and Patrick Sieloff frequently caught my eye.

Defence

#1 Laurent Brossoit: The Flames didn't give up many chances, but when they did, Brossoit was equal to it. It can be challenging for a goalie to track a choppy play, but the Flames netminder did well at it. The two goals against came from a tipped shot and an own goal. The Oilers defence put a number of shots on, and Brossoit was able to carefully control most of the rebounds. 

#50 Patrick Sieloff: Sieloff had a tremendous game, moving the puck with confidence, showing quick feet, and using his body effectively against a rugged group of Oiler forwards. It seemed as though any time something we done well by a Flamed defender, it was Sieloff I was watching. He earned an assist on Poirier's goal and looked comfortable running the point on the powerplay.

#56 Tyler Wotherspoon: Despite some hype at the tournament, Wotherspoon had a very quiet game. As a big, reasonably mobile defender, his job was simple (if pain-filled) in this particular contest, and he will be called upon more against the speedy and skilled Canucks forwards tonight. 

#67 Ryan Culkin: Scored on himself, so it wasn't a perfect night. He was used in all three disciplines and was effective in each situation. His transition skating (forward to backward, backward to forward) and lateral movement were not quite NHL level, but he was never exposed for it. His assist came on Granlund's weaker goal (a slapshot from the top of the circles), but his passing was nevertheless strong all game.

#73 Keegan Kanzig: Kanzig is... really big. He's also a reasonable skater. His straight ahead speed was more than adequate for the game. Still, his feet are heavy, and he had to make a number of plays with an awkward body position as he struggled to pivot with power. His puck skills are also questionable. He could be exposed by a faster, more dynamic forward group.

Forwards

#10 Corban Knight: As the third oldest player on the team, perhaps we can afford to have higher expectations for Knight. Still, he was a positive surprise for the Flames, moving the puck with vision and rhythm, tracking his man through the slot in the defensive end, and being consistently dangerous on the powerplay. He was a smooth play maker with a strong awareness for the play.

#23 Sean Monahan: Though Granlund scored twice in the game, my first star would go to Monahan. His soft hands, quick puck movement, and use of open spaces was dangerous all game. But so too was his play in the contact areas, as he protected the puck well and often drew Oiler players out of position. The game seemed to flow around him when he was on the ice. His hockey IQ was clearly extremely high, and his playmaking was among the best in the tournament so far. My only concern was that his offence is frequently timing-based, and I wonder how his game will evolve as he moves up levels.

#47 Sven Baertschi: Showed why he's seen NHL time already. Baertschi's shot was dangerous each time, and he filled space with confidence and awareness. He needs linemates to support him, as he is better away from the puck than with it at times. Knight provided that in this game. 

#57 Emile Poirier: Poirier lived up to his reputation as a gritty, hard-nosed player with great hockey sense and soft hands. He drove Bunz to distraction during the game, and his penalty was because Bunz finally took a dive to give the ref a call. His two-way play was almost unnecessary in the game, but it appeared as though he knew his assignment. It was in the offensive zone that he flourished with Monahan, executing a short two-man cycle over and over. The two stars had instant chemistry, but it was Poirier that worked the forecheck and puck retrieval on the line. An exceptional game.

#60 Markus Granlund: In addition to his two first period goals, Granlund had an extremely mature game. He was physical, played both ways, generated offence, and read the play well. He frequently looked a cut above other players in the game, and would be my second star if only because he didn't control the game like Monahan seemed to. Still, his physical skills are very good. Still needs to add some explosiveness to his skating to be NHL ready. 

#65 Turner Elson: It was clear that Elson was the third player on his line with Poirier and Monahan, but nevertheless had a solid game himself. His skating is very strong and he read the play well. It would benefit him to see time on other lines, despite fitting in admirably with the team's best.

#79 Michael Ferland: A wrecking ball with hands, Ferland was a frequent presence in the game and created a lot of space for Granlund and Hanowski. He had such a strange season last year, playing for four teams, but he made a case as a real prospect in game one.

(Tomorrow, Kevin's observations from the Canucks/Flames tilt).

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Kevin is the Managing Editor of Jets Nation. His work has been featured on Bleacher Report, The Sporting News, and around the Nations Network. An enthusiastic over-analyst, his background and interests are diverse, but you might notice he's obsessed with hockey. Track him down on twitter @kevinmccart or @nhljetsnation
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#1 Jeff In Lethbridge
September 07 2013, 10:58AM
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i know it means nothing, but to beat the oil in any context is nice.

so far have acquitted themselves fairly

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#2 Reidja
September 07 2013, 11:28AM
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Great observations and much appreciated. I'm looking forward to summaries of the remaining games.

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#3 Demetric
September 07 2013, 12:02PM
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Thanks for cover the game for us Kevin, good write up!!!

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#4 coachedpotatoe
September 07 2013, 12:34PM
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What is interesting about this article is that it was not written by a Flames fan. Knight and Sven must have looked better in person than on my computer or played way better in the second and third period. Two games, two wins, two fights; Burke must be loving it.

Interesting no love for R&R who both have played well. Maybe he has high expectations and they lived up them.

Things are looking good but lets remember this will be a long process.

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#5 piscera.infada
September 07 2013, 12:34PM
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Thanks for the update. I'm wondering if you, or someone else can explain what you mean by "Monahan's offense being timing based", and why it's cause for concern.

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#6 Craig
September 07 2013, 01:14PM
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piscera.infada wrote:

Thanks for the update. I'm wondering if you, or someone else can explain what you mean by "Monahan's offense being timing based", and why it's cause for concern.

Timing based offense is sort of right place right time offense. Monohans offense is based on his hockey sense, it's not generated by his speed, or necessarily by his hands. He scores because he is in the perfect position. The inherent problem with this is that as he plays in a higher caliber league, it's easy for the opposing team to key in on this and target it.

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#7 ChinookArch
September 07 2013, 01:20PM
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Excellent overview. Keep them coming.

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#8 piscera.infada
September 07 2013, 01:30PM
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@Craig

Right on. Thanks.

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#9 Kevin R
September 07 2013, 04:37PM
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Craig wrote:

Timing based offense is sort of right place right time offense. Monohans offense is based on his hockey sense, it's not generated by his speed, or necessarily by his hands. He scores because he is in the perfect position. The inherent problem with this is that as he plays in a higher caliber league, it's easy for the opposing team to key in on this and target it.

Every player has a strength that relates to his ability to score goals & every team scouts players to determine how they can shut down offensive weapons of the opponent. Obviously Monahan would be aware of what other teams are doing on the video & the difference between elite players & not, is how players know how to adapt. Whether you are a timing player or a speed player, teams will shut that down. If Monahan is a 1 dimensional player, then I guess we have reason to be concerned. If that's the case, Burke better revamp our scouting sooner than later.

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#10 RexLibris
September 07 2013, 05:23PM
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Monahan is an 18-year-old player who has gotten this far based on size, skill and an understanding of the timing of the hockey play at the junior level.

A little early to be debating whether he is one-dimensional or whether he can adapt to the professional ranks.

If he plays in the NHL this season (more than 10 games, and with the addition of Burke I think this is less likely than before) then he will need to be sheltered and will learn his lessons in-game.

If he doesn't then presumably the Flames will keep tabs on him and give him a few items they'd like him to improve upon during the CHL season.

It's been two rookie tournament games. Two wins is nice, but there is a long ways to go yet and prospects don't progress in straight lines.

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#11 clyde
September 07 2013, 05:38PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Every player has a strength that relates to his ability to score goals & every team scouts players to determine how they can shut down offensive weapons of the opponent. Obviously Monahan would be aware of what other teams are doing on the video & the difference between elite players & not, is how players know how to adapt. Whether you are a timing player or a speed player, teams will shut that down. If Monahan is a 1 dimensional player, then I guess we have reason to be concerned. If that's the case, Burke better revamp our scouting sooner than later.

Timing based is not just about being in the right place, it is about saving ice and exploding to the right areas at the right times. Knowing when to hit those areas involves having a very high hockey IQ. Since it involves Monahan reading the defense and attacking an area where they are not, a team cannot simply draw up a plan to stop him.

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#12 beloch
September 07 2013, 06:15PM
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I don't understand why people are worried about a prospect who, as one of the youngest players on the ice at the prospect tournament, is standing out by making smart plays. Yes, you have to be smarter, faster, stronger, etc. to be elite in the NHL, but how is it a bad sign that he's already smart, fast, and strong enough to hang with the best prospects in the West, most of whom are further along in their development?

Let the kid develop. Hockey IQ develops over time too you know. I'd be more worried if he threw his stick on the ice and had a tantrum while the play was still live, like Shinkaruk did last night.

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#13 They're $hittie
September 07 2013, 06:45PM
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backlund (80), Baertschi (76) in NHL14. LOL Ready for the future

They see what everyone outside of Calgary sees.

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#14 Reidja
September 07 2013, 08:01PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

backlund (80), Baertschi (76) in NHL14. LOL Ready for the future

They see what everyone outside of Calgary sees.

I know you won't read this because you will be binge video game playing for the next month but you may want to check the "potentials" on those players. I'm assuming fairly high.

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#15 Craig
September 07 2013, 08:42PM
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As it says in the article it will be interesting to see Monahan adapt and develop around his strength. In no way am I saying Monahan is one dimensional, he has an amazing shot, and above average passing. The good part about a player with great timing is that they usually have a very high hockey IQ, if you understand the game on a high level you can adapt much easier.

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#16 Burnward
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Great stuff. Mucho appreciado.

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#17 Kevin R
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clyde wrote:

Timing based is not just about being in the right place, it is about saving ice and exploding to the right areas at the right times. Knowing when to hit those areas involves having a very high hockey IQ. Since it involves Monahan reading the defense and attacking an area where they are not, a team cannot simply draw up a plan to stop him.

Well you just made my point, I don't think Monahan is 1 dimensional & therefore I am not concerned if he appears to be a "timing based offense player" I think Flames are scouting well, are basing their selections on a profile they feel will be successful in the NHL. As teams adapt to Monahan's style, I expect Monahan to rise to a higher level to ensure his success. That's what talented, intelligent players do. I for one feel satisfied in the direction the Flames are drafting future players & do credit Feaster for that. I just don't trust Feaster's trading, which is why Iam thrilled Burke is now there.

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#18 FireOnIce
September 08 2013, 01:10AM
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You know who else has "timing-based offense"? Steven Stamkos. I don't really know of him as a super fast player who dangles around every single person for 200 ft. and scores on an epic goal. His highlight reel is largely composed of him being in the "right place at the right time" and scoring on the same shot every time. Get open, and score on the one-timer from his knee.

Monahan is no Stamkos, but this supposed "downside" could be a good thing.

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@Kevin R

Problem with Burke approving trades is that he doesn't like the kind of player's that Feaster and Weisbrod have accumulated and will likely want to use some of them in his trade plans.

If Gaudreau is one of those players, I will be finished as a Flames fan

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