FGD: To Catch a Predators

Taylor McKee
January 24 2014 01:38PM

Ahh yes, those were the days huh? Such grit, and not a whole lot else.

The Flames and Preds used to be a sneaky good rivalry, mostly because I can remember the Preds simply owning the Flames the vast majority of the time. I am sure we all remember the Vokoun/Kipper fight which was crazyness and the McLennan/Vokoun/Iginla dust up was wild too. Nowadays, I wouldn't exactly consider a Preds/Flames game must see TV but the Flames are on a home winning streak dangnabbit, and they are looking to make it a two game winning streak. 

The Flames (17-27-7) welcome the Nashville Predators (23-22-7) tonight in the second game of a five-game homestand. The Flames are on that aforementioned one-game home winning streak after they held on to beat the Coyotes 3-2 on Wednesday. The Flames will also likely be welcoming escapee Devan Dubnyk back to the Saddledome, a place where he shut out the Flames 2-0 in his last start against them on December 27.

THE LOCALS

The Flames welcomed back Kris Russell and David Jones this week and all this considered they both have played quite well. David Jones picked up an assist against Phoenix and Russell had one against San Jose so they both have contributed some offence since returning. In the game against San Jose, Paul Byron blocked a shot off the ankle and missed the game against Phoenix while in that game, Brian Mcgrattan blocked a shot and will miss this game.

Looks like Byron is good to go for tonight which is a good thing because he rules. Unfortunately, Byron will be on a line with Westgarth but who knows, with B.Jones and Byron, one can almost see the makings of a fourth line that can skate and maybe even score every once in a while.

Here's the lineup courtesy of Dailyfaceoff.com

- Hudler - Backlund - Stempniak

- Galiardi - Monahan - Colborne

- Bouma - Stajan - D.Jones

- Byron - B. Jones - Westgarth

 

- Brodie - Jyordano

- Russell - Butler

- O'Brien - Wideman

 

- Ramo

The Flames will be without Ladislav Smid as well tonight as he is sitting out with what is thought to be an accumulation of a bunch of different ailments. That means fans will be treated to the 'defense' of Shane O'Brien again tonight, though of late O'Brien's play hasn't been as markedly horrid as it was earlier in the season. Or perhaps I have become numb to it. Either way, he's in and Smid sits.

Karri Ramo has been quite solid lately and, as Justin was mentioning on twitter the other day, has been solidifying his position as the clear starting goalie with a .917 sv% at evens. That's compared to a .899 from Berra, and that's with Berra seeing 32 fewer even strength shots.

Last game, Sean Monahan had good jump, fought well in puck battles, and generally played one of his best games since returning from his foot injury. His line actually played quite well, the much maligned Galiardi included, with Monahan scoring the first goal of the game with assists from both of his linemates. Colborne recently spoke to the Flames media people about his switch to wing and I would think that we should get used to seeing him on the wing as his time at centre was rather rocky.

THE TEAM BARRY TROTZ WILL COACH FOREVER

 

Here's Nashville's lineup thanks to the folks at Daily Faceoff:

- Wilson - Fisher - Hornqvist 

- Spaling - Legwand - Smith

- Bourque - Cullen - Nystrom

- Clune - Gaustad - Stalberg


- Josi - Weber

- Del Zotto - Jones

- Bartley - Ellis


-Dubnyk

I am sure you know exactly what to expect from the Preds by now. A hard-working, trapping, skate you into the mud type of team without any real flash but will lull you to sleep and score greasy goals. That is basically still their game and their forwards are all solid but no one really jumps out at you.

The Preds have a pretty decent group of centremen though with Cullen and Gaustad centring their bottom six. It really just goes to show how good a team needs to be down the middle if this is the group that Nashville has, and they are only a game above .500.

The real strength of this team is their defense. They have, or are certainly going to have, one of the best defensive corps in the NHL with Weber, Jones, Ellis, Josi, Ekholm, and now Del Zotto. They are clearly trying to build from the back-end and hope they can win a lot of games 2-1.

As I mentioned before, Dubnyk gets the start tonight as the Preds continue to try to hold on until Pekka Rinne returns. Dubnyk is one of five goalies to have a win this season for the Preds, with Mazanec and Hutton carrying the majority of the mail so far.

Also, do you guys remember Sergei Krivokrasov? Man, he used to kill the Flames. 

PLAYERS TO WATCH

pic via SlidingSideways 

It will be interesting to see how del Zotto looks in Nashville as he looks to be paired with Seth Jones to start. That could be a very good pairing for them and could give MDZ a chance to revitalize his career. Up front, Craig Smith is having a quietly good season, leading the team in goals with 16 and is likely benefitting from having the dependable Legwand as his centreman.

Also, watch Dubnyk, whom I am sure gets 'Nam flashbacks during odd-man rushes still. Hopefully he doesn't continue his very recently acquired mastery of 'dome ice.

For the Flames, Matt Stajan has been a scoring machine since inking a new four-year deal this week. Well, he's scored in two of his last three but still, for this team that is pretty formidable. Tonight, he is on a line with Bouma and David Jones so offense won't come easy, but look for Stajan to be used in a lot of tough situations.

SUM IT UP

The Preds have won two straight and are still theoretically in the mix in their division but in reality, this is a game between a bottom-feeder and an also-ran. However, the Flames have been playing much better hockey in their past few games and won a gutsy game against Phoenix so hopefully this one will be a good one to take in as well.

Puck drops at 7pm MT on SNET West.  

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Taylor splits time between UVIC and Calgary studying history. Taylor likes the Flames, the Cannons, Buckshot, and the Oxford comma. Taylor scored on his own net on dome ice when he was 8. Twitter: @TaylorMcKee_
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#1 Bean-counting cowboy
January 24 2014, 01:47PM
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I hope the 4th line (Byron & Jones) tear it up and make Hartley think twice about McGrattan

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#2 Darrell
January 24 2014, 01:51PM
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I won tickets to the 2004 game on the Fan 960. Refs called a questionable game but it was all worth it to see Kipper fight!

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#3 The Otter
January 24 2014, 02:22PM
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Happy to see Byron back. I don't know why, but I am actually excited about the game tonight. Maybe it is because we have a chance for a 2 game winning streak? Yeah....That's got to be it.

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#4 beloch
January 24 2014, 02:47PM
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The league is unlikely to fine Hartley for opening the game with Byron on the ice!

But seriously, I'm actually looking forward to seeing how well these lines do. This is the first fourth line the Flames have iced in a very long time that might not get clobbered, and which might even be able to play for more than five minutes! Maybe icing two enforcers does something for a NHL team and maybe it doesn't. However, being able to roll four lines definitely gives everyone better legs!

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#5 coachedpotatoe
January 24 2014, 03:19PM
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At least both BJones and Byron kill penalties. Westgarth will play 4-6 minutes. Maybe McG is not hurt but being held out to make the trade to Washington for Green (previous thread)

I wonder what it says about Thorton and Marleau both signing extensions for 3 years and a pay cut.

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#6 mk
January 24 2014, 03:37PM
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If the rumours of Green being available for a "tough veteran", they're probably looking for defense, not a goon forward. We don't have one of those (possibly Giordano).

If they're looking for someone like Glencross - ship him over there and let the PP time roll in CGY.

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#7 coachedpotatoe
January 24 2014, 04:12PM
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mk wrote:

If the rumours of Green being available for a "tough veteran", they're probably looking for defense, not a goon forward. We don't have one of those (possibly Giordano).

If they're looking for someone like Glencross - ship him over there and let the PP time roll in CGY.

How about O'B and McG? Or maybe Smid is not injured and it's Smid and McG.

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#8 mk
January 24 2014, 04:51PM
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@coachedpotatoe

I guess I was assuming that they'd be able to tell if the players we gave up could actually play defense well. Smid could do so if he gets out of the funk he's in, but O'Brien is not valuable in that sense.

I would LOVE to trade O'Brien and McG for Green. I would do that any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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#9 loudogYYC
January 24 2014, 06:42PM
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Green would be a disaster here, who even started that thread/debate/rumor?? He's hardly an upgrade on Russell IMO.

If I were GMGM I'd trade Green in a heartbeat. He's a HUGE defensive liability and his offense hasn't been making up for it for years now.

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#10 RKD
January 24 2014, 07:09PM
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Cool to see Kipper fight, the good old days. David Poile is building the Preds the right way from the back end. They will be more successful than the Oilers sooner rather than later. However, the Oilers could be dangling Eberle for Weber. When Weber signed the offer sheet in Philly, it did not contain a no-movement clause. Lastly, it has been suggested a back door agreement exists between Murray Edwards and Curtis Glencross not to be traded. I don't think anyone here is untouchable.

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#11 44stampede
January 24 2014, 07:53PM
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How about O'B and McG? Or maybe Smid is not injured and it's Smid and McG.

Why in the world would Wash do that? wow

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#12 Brent G.
January 24 2014, 08:17PM
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How about O'B and McG? Or maybe Smid is not injured and it's Smid and McG.

That is legitimately one of the stupider comments I have ever read on here...

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January 24 2014, 08:42PM
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That is legitimately one of the stupider comments I have ever read on here...

I really wasn't being serious, but nothing else was going happening on the site and I was hoping for some sort of reaction. Not that I want Green,he's not what we need.

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#14 RKD
January 24 2014, 08:48PM
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Why do former players always have to have a big game against us? First Jokinen in the Winnipeg game and now Nystrom with a pair tonight. Sheesh. At least I take comfort in knowing the 'Yotes are crushing the Oilers 4-0 in the second period.

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#15 Adam
January 24 2014, 09:25PM
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The good news if this goes to a shootout is that we have Berra in net now.

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#16 RexLibris
January 24 2014, 09:39PM
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Is it too late to call Nystrom in the shootout?

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#17 Burnward
January 24 2014, 09:42PM
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Eric the Pred

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#18 MontanaMan
January 24 2014, 09:43PM
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Wideman -4 for the game? Tough to trade a guy going -4 in a 4 goal game.

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#19 RKD
January 24 2014, 09:45PM
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Rob Kerr: Berra barricades the door!

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#20 RKD
January 24 2014, 09:46PM
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Hudler! Epic fail by Dubie on the pokecheck!

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#21 RexLibris
January 24 2014, 09:46PM
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I'd like to see some data on success in the SO relative to the speed in the approach.

Seems virtually every time a player slows down, they fail. When they succeed, it is almost always with speed.

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#22 RKD
January 24 2014, 09:48PM
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Flames win! Berra still undefeated in the shootout and still ahead of the Oilers!

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#23 prendrefeu
January 24 2014, 09:50PM
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I'd like to see some data on success in the SO relative to the speed in the approach.

Seems virtually every time a player slows down, they fail. When they succeed, it is almost always with speed.

Jeremy Clarkson approves.

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#24 Burnward
January 24 2014, 09:52PM
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That was awesome. Love these guys. So plucky.

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#25 beloch
January 24 2014, 09:53PM
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@RexLibris

Monahan scored after coming in pretty slow. He waited for Dubnyk to commit to moving laterally and then stuffed it five-hole when his legs opened up. Very slick!

Great comeback in a great game. The Flames now officially have a winning streak of 2 games!

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#26 RexLibris
January 24 2014, 09:57PM
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@beloch

I'm not suggesting that it is a truism, but a player shooting below 45% should probably defer to attacking with speed.

Gagner usually slows it down, but he also has the ability to stickhandle the puck eighteen times before making a shot.

For most others, if they have the accuracy in their shot, then they would be well-advised to attack with speed and get the goalie backing up quickly.

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January 24 2014, 10:11PM
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Great save by Berra to win the shoutout. Almost exactly like Niemi's save on Bertuzzi in a shootout earlier in the season.

Now 7 points up on the Oilers with a game in hand still. What the hell Edmonton!

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January 24 2014, 10:11PM
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Eric Nystrom? Eric Nystrom! Wow - solid night for him.

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@RexLibris

I think I'd have to see some solid stats to be convinced either way. If it was clear that going in fast is statistically better, you'd think the video guys would catch it and nobody would go in slow.

In other news, the Oilers just lost their sixth in a row, so the Flames lead swells to 7 points (still with a game in hand). I get the feeling we're just going to have to hope the Flames get lucky in the lottery.

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#30 Tony
January 24 2014, 10:22PM
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Man, another Oilers fan throws his jersey onto the ice. Crazy times up there.

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#31 BurningSensation
January 24 2014, 10:53PM
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RexLibris wrote:

I'd like to see some data on success in the SO relative to the speed in the approach.

Seems virtually every time a player slows down, they fail. When they succeed, it is almost always with speed.

I wonder if Patrick Kane hasn't misled other shooters into thinking they can pull it off.

With only anecdotal evidence at hand, I would have to agree that trying to suddenly slow the pace is a mistake.

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