GDB: BATTLE OF ALBERTA

Lowetide
March 01 2014 09:50AM


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It's an ill will she blows this morning, ladies and men. We are stone cold frozen, indoors, outdoors and in the western conference. The blues aren't blue enough, the country tear-jerkers can't find the lines, the poets can't stop the clocks in rhyme. 

The Battle of Alberta is desolation row. 

BUT WE'LL GET THERE BEFORE THEM!

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Really? REALLY? The tortoise and the hare had a point to their story, I'm not sure 'one frozen bubble against another one' will galvanize our collective spirits in Alberta province. 

Is there ANY good news? And don't tell me the draft! 

CALGARY FLAMES PROJECTED LINEUP

  • TJ Galiardi-Mikael Backlund-Jiri Hudler
  • Mike Cammalleri-Sean Monahan-Joe Colborne
  • Lance Bouma-Matt Stajan-David Jones
  • Paul Byron-Markus Granlund-Kevin Westgarth
  • TJ Brodie-Mark Giordano
  • Kris Russell-Derek Smith
  • Ladislav Smid-Dennis Wideman
  • Reto Berra

The Flames have some good hockey players heading out tonight, and some of them will be playing their last game with the fiery C. Mike Cammalleri should get significant interest, young Backlund has once again overcome major obstacles and the all-Canadian Monahan looks sharp in every photo. The Flames Corsi for % 5x5 is 45.2%, fourth worst in the league but there are some champions in the group:

  • Galiardi 50.8%
  • Giordano 50.5%
  • Backlund 49.4%
  • Brodie 49.3%
  • Cammalleri 49.2%

The complete list is here   and it is worth noting Calgary has only three position players who have been on the ice for more than 300 minutes while posting a sub 43% Corsi for 5x5 %. 

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EDMONTON OILERS PROJECTED LINEUP

  • Hall-Nuge-Hemsky
  • Perron-Gagner-Eberle
  • Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
  • Jones-Smyth-Gazdic
  • Marincin-Petry
  • N Schultz-J Schultz
  • Ference-Belov
  • Bryzgalov

Nail Yakupov's injury isn't considered serious, but it's also likely they hold him back for tonight's game. Do the Oilers have some good news, something similar to the Flames' men who are close to 50% or better Corsi for 5x5?

The Oilers Corsi for 5x5% is 43.3%, they are one below Calgary in the race (don't you laugh, Toronto  only Buffalo saves you!)

  • Martin Marincin 50.2%

The numbers are here.  Edmonton has five players who have been on the ice for more than 300 minutes while also posting a sub 43% Corsi for 5x5 %.


SOME SWEET DAY

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History tells us this will not last. Calgary will have a fine trade deadline, add some picks and prospects and live to fight another day. Edmonton appears to have invested heavily in hiring a new coach each season, so the only impressive thing is the number of first overall selections on their roster. 

Calgary and Edmonton are driving toward that goal this summer, first overall. In that race, Edmonton is judge, jury and executioner. For Oiler fans, the promise of a first overall pick is like a kick in the junk, a stomach turner, a false spring. 

The Flames should learn the lesson presented to them by Edmonton—it's pretty damn hard to come back quickly from scorched earth, even when good soil lies all about you. 

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Flames and Oilers play to a 1-1 tie and no one can score in the shootout. Finally, Ladislav Smid drives in over the blueline and goes shelf on a very surprised Ilya Bryzgalov.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Flames win 5-1, on 5 shorthanded goals. All by Smid. 

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: CBC's After Hours becomes trade central as both Mike Cammalleri and Ales Hemsky are sent to Pittsburgh right after the game. 

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#201 Tommy Ryan Salo-Smyth
March 01 2014, 11:18PM
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I want to point out how Petry is a joke and how badly I want him off this team, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. This entire team is embarrassing.

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#202 Wonger
March 02 2014, 12:01AM
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Lowetide wrote:

Westgarth won't return (no big surprise). Hope he's fine, and agree. These men pay a terrible price.

Hope Westie is OK! Tough way to make a living! Anybody who drops the gloves has Big Coionies!!! Website is still top 10- bad luck - could happen to anybody! GAZDIC throws bombs!

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#203 Quack
March 02 2014, 12:06PM
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This is our Team!!! Watching this is like watching my dog burn in a fire and not being able to do anything about it!! This joke has gotten old, lets get a new group of management completely and give fresh minds an opportunity to trade the assets we have into an actual real life team that plays the game

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#204 Spydyr
March 01 2014, 10:30AM
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Jeffff wrote:

Sounds like you were mimicking some sportswriter . I find the big ice mostly boring.

"Sounds like you were mimicking some sportswriter"

Perhaps it is just people that understand the game have the same opinion.

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#205 Tuningout
March 01 2014, 12:37PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Not sure why fans should care anymore about this season. Certainly the players have packed it in, at least ones not named Hendrick, Gadzick, Scrivens and Marcinin..

The system here is broken!!. Its been said a thousands of times before.

Sorry, as long as Katz, Lowe, and MacT are driving this train wreck, this baby aint happening. You can take this one to the bank.

Calgary and Buffalo will emerge long before the Oilers. You need no other example than Colorado, , Dallas, and even the Coyotes, who were bankrupt etc, and still maintained a winning atomsphere.

To think that this organization put on the GONG SHOW for the fans the other days is a joke.The least they could have doned is spent the morning apologizing, instead of all the B S.

Great post. And sad but true. DSF looked at Buffalo and made some evidence that they will be better than the Oilers soon. And while many of his posts had flaws. After the trade deadline is finished this year. I may have to agree. :(

We've endured this thanks to a promise of building a contender not just a pretender. But my god it looks so lost right now.

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#206 The Real Scuba Steve
March 01 2014, 01:08PM
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Loweblows wrote:

I hope we get blown out tonight. I hope Calgary scores lots of goals and CBC zooms in on Eakins with his blowing cheeks vacant eyes look. And furthermore I truly hope this is the last straw for Eakins. Anyone who supports Eakins is NOT a knowledgable fan. As an earlier poster said it right. It's wrong to keep Eakins for the sake of continuity. The longer this clown is around the deeper the damage. Eakins lovers can kiss my a&&.

And maybe a picture in the press of management brain trust that hired this goof ball.

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#207 kittensandcookies
March 01 2014, 08:45PM
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Jesus the only thing that's easier than entering the Oilers zone is Ryan Nugent Hopkins' mom.

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#208 Boys on the Short Bus
March 01 2014, 10:06PM
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Forget attracting free agents, Oil Barons going to start declining call ups

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#209 ?
March 02 2014, 12:49AM
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beloch wrote:

Crosby, Toews, and Malkin are all great possession players who are as good in their own end as in the offensive zone. Hall, when he has a chance to hustle back and break up a 3-on-1, changes. When his own team is hemmed in its own end, he's out at the red line cherry-picking. Seriously, there's a damned good reason Team Canada took Kunitz over Hall.

Monahan is still just 19 so it's too early to say what kind of player he'll turn out to be. Currently, he still needs a lot of shelter to score. Fortunately for the Flames, playing against Hall counts as "shelter".

"Crosby, Toews, and Malkin are all great possession players who are as good in their own end as in the offensive zone."

I really hope you were kidding when you mentioned Malkin in that category. The guy is about as big of a defensive liability as you can get. His backchecking consists of him taking 2 strides back and going back to the bench.

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#210 Oilerfan
March 02 2014, 03:29AM
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Wonger wrote:

Hope Westie is OK! Tough way to make a living! Anybody who drops the gloves has Big Coionies!!! Website is still top 10- bad luck - could happen to anybody! GAZDIC throws bombs!

You know who else had big colonies? England. That's who.

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#211 Drowning in Oil
March 02 2014, 09:02AM
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When it's -40 outside, your team sucks about as bad as a team can suck and the rink is still sold out, explain to me why this organization would give two craps about what anyone on the outside is thinking. Katz makes his money and everyone thinks they are untouchable. Hey, as long as the money is flowing!!

People in this city need to take a genuine stand against this abomination. The only clear demonstration that will get managements attention is not attending these games. Plain and simple!!

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#212 The War Amp Champ
March 02 2014, 09:05AM
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@Hoozonphirst

I'll even help pack Sam's stuff to get him outs here faster I wonder if he can win a draw playing nhl14?

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#213 blue31
March 02 2014, 09:43AM
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Rick wrote:

If I'm a player in the draft i would silently be wishing Edmonton does not pick me.

Oilers ruin players.

Don't even have to be silent about it. Eric Lindrs wasn't.

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#214 Dan
March 02 2014, 12:28PM
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Butters wrote:

Trade whom? This team need D. They do not have a any redundancy at forward except for Hemsky, and I am not sure they will get a lot for him. If you think they need to change the makeup of the forwards it might help, but the holes are in the D imho.

Did you just say we "don't" have a y redundancy at forward? Haha redundancy at forward is the ONLY thing this team has

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#215 samurai003
March 02 2014, 01:27PM
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I can't believe Eakins is still here. He can't bring out the good in the players, and now the young players are developing poorly. I'm also sick of hearing about his systems, and next season, and how easy it will be to adapt.

That tells me his AHL systems suck, didn't work, don't work, and there's now it's out of control.

I speculate there is a backdoor deal when they brought Eakins in, that the management HAVE to keep him here, or promised LOTS over and above just a salary.

More poor management decisions. The only decisions they've made is the type of polish to use on their rings.

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#216 john
March 02 2014, 02:21PM
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T&A4Flames wrote:

You guys don't even bother posting post-game blogs anymore?

It's pretty easy to copy-and-paste.

Why? At this point that sounds about as appealing as driving your ex-wife to her boyfriends house & telling her to have a nice time.

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#217 Zamboni Driver
March 01 2014, 10:17AM
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If only there could be more ridiculous Corsi nonsense to demonstrate that this will be a terrible game, again on national TV, oh boy.

And WEEEEE I am going.

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#218 Ryan Pike
March 01 2014, 10:20AM
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Flames injuries: Ramo (knee), Glencross (ankle), McGrattan (upper), Butler (lower/upper), Stempniak (personal) all won't play. Chad Billins has been recalled to be the seventh D-man.

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#219 cccsberg
March 01 2014, 05:46PM
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Naky wrote:

@Kent Wilson

You know that point where to enemies have fought for so long but then they both get to such a low point that they end up sitting next to each other in quiet silence passing a flask back and forth? That's pretty much where state of the fanbase is between the Oilers and Flames are right now.

Great one. I needed a good laugh!

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#220 oilerman53
March 01 2014, 06:00PM
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Glenn Healys moronic comments are him auditioning for Don Cherrys job once Cherry starts forgetting to wear pants and tries to call a game nude! Healy is already slipping further into hockey dementia and his Toronto based homerism keeps him on the CBC.

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#221 seanjohn667
March 01 2014, 06:09PM
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tonight's battle of alberta? i'm not sure if it is possible for me to care less.

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#222 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 08:35PM
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How come the Oilers are the only team in the league that doesn't gain momentum when their role players do their job.

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#223 RexHolez
March 01 2014, 09:05PM
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vetinari wrote:

Anyone else think that Team Latvia would destroy both these teams in a heartbeat?

Agreed!! The Latvian woman's team would walk all over these losers! You meant the woman's team right??

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#224 Alsker
March 01 2014, 09:24PM
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vetinari wrote:

Not a PP!!! We suck at PPs... and every other facet of the game, but let's start with the PP...

Was that ugly. Exposed every problem the PP has within that 2 minutes. Epic!!!

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#225 FireKLowe
March 01 2014, 09:26PM
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vetinari wrote:

Not a PP!!! We suck at PPs... and every other facet of the game, but let's start with the PP...

How many times has Ryan the "useless fcuk" been effective on the PP and yet idiot Eakins keeps putting him on it, and first unit to boot! I hate to say it but this team is ions away from being competitive on a nightly basis.

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#226 RexHolez
March 01 2014, 09:36PM
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vetinari wrote:

Golf... they get months of more practice than any other team in the league for almost a decade... Ask Kevin Lowe...

Maybe golf. But golf takes a long time and might cut into the bar time. I think they need somthing that requires less time, energy and focus. Beer pong! I bet they're the best team at beer pong

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#227 Reg Dunlop
March 01 2014, 09:59PM
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What are the odds that the spirit of Alexander Daigle would inhabit every 1st overall that the oil have had the pleasure of selecting? An effort like tonight has to raise question marks about their character.

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#228 Gk1980
March 01 2014, 10:12PM
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Maybe the players are rebelling, are they all this bad? What the hell happened this is pathetic. I want them to get shout out, force change.

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#229 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 10:14PM
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vetinari wrote:

I used to laugh when guys would say that they'd make a better GM than a professional... but then I witnessed years of Tambellini in (in)action and I can say yes, literally anyone could have done better than him.

I still think Mr Lowe was making those calls.

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#230 Alsker
March 01 2014, 10:32PM
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vetinari wrote:

Words I do not want to hear:

"Gagner's the only fore checker..."

Pretty sure they meant "flybyer"

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#231 beloch
March 01 2014, 10:54PM
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@Jordan Nugent-Hallkins

No doubt. He actually backchecks!

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#232 cccsberg
March 02 2014, 08:42AM
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40 Double D wrote:

It's clear Eakins can't coach in the NHL. He wants the players to play his system but they're not built to win 1-0 games. He doesn't have the personnel to play that style. Krueger was more successful because he played a system according to their strengths. If a newbie fan was watching the Oil play under this system, they would never know that Hall, RNH, and Yak were 1st overall picks.

1. the same as Krueger, Renney and so on also can't coach in the NHL. Not saying he's the best, or even defending him, but seriously, when is Edmonton going to recognize and accept that ITS the PLAYERS!

2. Sure if we were playing Junior/World Juniors here the Halls and Eberle's are Superstars, but we're not. And the problem with the Oilers, amongst many, are that these guys have not progressed beyond that style, unable or unwilling to be coached and learn. Get rid of some of the "core' and get some NHL team players!

3. In other, earlier posts were some comments about Mohan vs. the Oilers "stars". Now Monohan's just starting and no one is sure what he'll become so I'm not saying he'll be the greatest, but I sure am liking what I'm seeing so far. Watching them all kind of reminds me of a skills comparison comparison between Ovechkin and Toews. Ovie is super-talented, great offensive player, but one-dimensional. Toews also great on offence, but also great on defence, face-offs, leadership and team play. Ovie can draw crowds with his sic skills and make highlight reels, but Toews draws Cups and Championships with his sic, but less-visible skills.

4. Overall getting sad to see Edmonton play. No fire in the kids at all. Given up. Unwilling to listen and learn. Waste of a lot of talent....

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#233 Newj
March 02 2014, 09:30AM
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It's probably just me & it's only a fraction of what goes on prior to the game, but HNIC showed Hall & Eberle looking and feeling very loose before the game. Kind of like most young kids before any hockey game.

Stories of Bobby Orr while in the midst of a losing streak - a miserable son of a bitch who detested losing and remained that way until the losing ended.

Yeah it's just a game but the Oilers pregame face seems like they are steps away from either winning the cup or thinking about the bar scene after the game.

Yes tension makes you grip the stick tighter but maybe some signs of frustration will lead to acts of desperation and try to win at all cost?

Sign me off as skeptical of this team's motive and heart.

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#234 Harry
March 02 2014, 11:47AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Like I have said before, our BEST chance of landing Ekblad is Eakins.

There are many writers that state Coaching is not our problem, they keep shoving their collective heads in the sand deeper and deeper hoping that something will change to prove their point.

Just how many first round draft choices/player changes are required before everyone agrees that Coaching is currently our biggest problem.

Problem is our so called "core players" are all the exact same player type. Until that changes we wont be making the playoffs.

Gagner and one of either ebs or yak need to be moved for other player types this offseason

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#235 nunyour
March 01 2014, 02:07PM
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hockey fan 1976 wrote:

Its so funny to hear fans and commentators on the how Soilers need to go after Webber hard this off-season...bottom line is a) our scouting and GM have been horrible for over 10 years. if they were good at their jobs, why were Kessler, Perry and our so desired Stud D-man overlooked well into the 2nd round of the 2003 draft. Bottom line is, we have picked "offensive" softies who can't back check because they are too good to for that, and meanwhile, 3 latest Olympians included the best D-man in the world were not picked 11 years ago. We are getting what we deserved since we prefer to deal with the "boys on the bus" rather than competent hockey minds.

I totally agree with you that all the poor drafting is what is wrong with the oilers,with first round picks of Rita,Henrich,Riesen,Devereaux,to name a few,this affects the team for years.If the oilers would have pick Doan in 1995 instead of Kelly they would still have a useful player,that's almost 20 years.

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#236 Spydyr
March 01 2014, 05:01PM
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Derzie wrote:

I love these mixed blogs. Us Flames posters are generally as dry as they come. I'm splitting a gut with the Oiler posters. Have sarcasm down to a science. Cracking me up. *Big Ern pats Gazdic on the head. Brothers in Arms.

We have had eight years to perfect it.Sad face.

Don't worry your turn is just starting.You will lots of time to improve.

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#237 Chambers
March 01 2014, 05:25PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Just wondering, do you have a female relative named Marlyn who would now be in her early 60's?

She is actually my wife. Her lips are a bit dry these days.....

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#238 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 09:16PM
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That 1-3-1 is impossible to defend, or did he mean impossible to score.

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#239 vetinari
March 01 2014, 09:20PM
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Not a PP!!! We suck at PPs... and every other facet of the game, but let's start with the PP...

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#240 vetinari
March 01 2014, 09:25PM
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RexHolez wrote:

I wonder if the oilers are good at curling or maybe darts?? It'd be nice to find somthing they're good at

Golf... they get months of more practice than any other team in the league for almost a decade... Ask Kevin Lowe...

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#241 Gk1980
March 01 2014, 10:20PM
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Perron! What they heck are you doing!!! Going against the grain!!! He doesn't believe in the plan.

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#242 Gk64167
March 01 2014, 10:27PM
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vetinari wrote:

Words I do not want to hear:

"Gagner's the only fore checker..."

Words you will never hear

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#243 RKD
March 01 2014, 10:43PM
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Monahan from Byron!!!

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#244 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 01 2014, 10:52PM
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Willi P wrote:

Yes, thankfully not. Monahan is already much more mature and a team guy.

I won't disagree, Hall seems like a manchild. But Monahan will never come close to Hall at their respective peaks.

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#245 RKD
March 01 2014, 10:54PM
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@Jordan Nugent-Hallkins

You should be happy you got Nurse, you guys need d!

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#246 bazmagoo
March 02 2014, 12:23AM
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@Rod from Viking

Would like to think MacT's value is far less as well. Only a matter of time before he takes a bullet for that decision too. It's a shame though, I think MacT has done pretty well in the GM department.

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#247 bulldog12
March 02 2014, 10:05AM
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May not have to fire Eakins. He might quit or tell MacT to get him some real hockey players. Some with some balls and don't mind working up a sweat. You can try and teach all the systems you want but unless the players want to change and put in an effort you're done before you even open the gate. RNH, Perron, Gordon, Hendricks, Gazdic, Marancin Schultz Ferenence and Schrivens are the only keepers of these bunch of pussies. The rest are all AVAILABLE and Hall would lead the parade out of town.

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#248 Jeff In Lethbridge
March 02 2014, 04:53PM
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all in all that was an average game for the Flames who are still struggling with injuries.

Ferrence is looking really frustrated playing in ed. poor guy. what did he do in his previous life to deserve this? i guess this way he got a couple more years in a career that was all but over.

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#249 Stuart
March 01 2014, 10:54AM
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Stuart wrote:

I've said this before it would not matter if the Oilers got the # 1 pick in the draft for the last 8 years. They don't know how to rebuild. If they did we would already see some positive results.

Their philosophy is change the coach or change the GM and we can fool the fans this year is the 1st year of the rebuild. Blame the last guy with the job. Sadly the fans buy into this.

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#250 hockey fan 1976
March 01 2014, 12:57PM
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Its so funny to hear fans and commentators on the how Soilers need to go after Webber hard this off-season...bottom line is a) our scouting and GM have been horrible for over 10 years. if they were good at their jobs, why were Kessler, Perry and our so desired Stud D-man overlooked well into the 2nd round of the 2003 draft. Bottom line is, we have picked "offensive" softies who can't back check because they are too good to for that, and meanwhile, 3 latest Olympians included the best D-man in the world were not picked 11 years ago. We are getting what we deserved since we prefer to deal with the "boys on the bus" rather than competent hockey minds.

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