2014 Trade Deadline Live Blog

Ryan Pike
March 05 2014 09:22AM

Intrepid boy reporter (and FlamesNation's managing editor) Ryan Pike is hunkered down in the deep recesses of the Scotiabank Saddledome for the 2014 NHL trade deadline. If something goes down today in regards to your Calgary Flames, we'll be all over it.

And if nothing much happens for awhile, we'll do our best to keep you informed and entertained nonetheless. Follow along here at on Twitter: @FlamesNation and @RyanNPike.


9:15am:

Howdy, all. I've just arrived at the Saddledome. With just 11 healthy forwards available for tonight, the Flames have officially recalled Corban Knight and Max Reinhart from the AHL. Knight's been solid with the Heat this year, while Reinhart has reportedly really taken a big leap forward after getting his head kicked in last year (he was -26). Knight has 37 points in 57 games, while Reinhart has 45 points in 51 games. Knight'll wear #10 for the Flames, while #MaxPower returns to his customary #59.

9:40am:
For the curious, here's where the rosters sit as of now - you're gonna feel bad for the few diehard Heat fans here.
FLAMES: Berra & Ortio (G); Smid, Russell, Giordano, Wideman, Brodie, Butler & Smith (D); Colborne, Knight, Backlund, Cammalleri, McGrattan, Bouma, Stempniak, Monahan, Hudler, Byron, Galiardi & Granlund (F); Ramo, D.Jones, Westgarth, Glencross (injured); Stajan (personal/unavailable)
HEAT: MacDonald & Roy (G); Wotherspoon, Breen, Ramage, Arsene, Billins, LaFranchise & O'Brien (D); Street, Elson, Jooris, Trupp, Kremyr, B.Jones, Lyon, Locke, Hanowski, Bancks, Baertschi & Olson (F); Sieloff, Ferland, Foster, Gillies (injured)
So...yeah. Not a heck of a lot going on on the farm. They're without their #1 goalie, their two most dangerous scorers and their top two-way pivot. And they weren't an amazingly deep squad to begin with. If a defender needs to be recalled, it'll be Wotherspoon. If another forward needs to come up... I got no idea. Hanowski? Street? I can't imagine they bring up Baertschi unless they really, really need him.

10:05am:
Derek Smith has cleared waivers.

10:28am:
Flames are on-ice for practice. Everyone's here except for Matt Stajan, Derek Smith and T.J. Galiardi.

10:45am:
Derek Smith has been officially assigned back to Abbotsford. The Flames roster is, at this point, at 22 bodies. Stajan is non-roster, while Westgarth, Ramo, Jones and Glencross are all on the IR.
By the by, Joe Meloni at College Hockey News is reporting (via Twitter) that "I guess everyone figured this. But all signs point to Gaudreau signing in CGY as soon as BC's season is over."

11:22am:
Practice and media availabilities are over the Flames. Galiardi's hurt and Smith got sent down, so the Flames have the bare minimum of healthy NHL bodies right now. If somebody gets shipped out, they'll need a body back (from Abbotsford or elsewhere) to fill out their line-up.
As expected, gigantic scrum for Corban Knight in the locker room. Tons of media here, which is somewhat unusual for a game-day skate.

11:30am:
Granted, they're a development team that this is what was always gonna happen, but you gotta feel a bit bad for the Abbotsford Heat. They play Texas, one of the better teams in the AHL, and by my recollection, they don't have enough centers. Ruh-roh.

12:06pm:
We're an hour from the deadline and so far, the biggest news is that lunch has arrived. Still no chatter whatsoever from the usual suspects regarding Flames moves.

12:31pm:
Still nothing yet. For giggles, Calgary's last 5 years of deadline day moves:

  • 2013 (Feaster): Blake Comeau to Columbus for 5th rounder
  • 2012 (Feaster): Nothing; signed Tim Jackman to extension
  • 2011 (Feaster): 7th rounder to Atlanta for Frederik Modin
  • 2010 (Sutter): Curtis McElhinney to Anaheim for Vesa Toskala, Riley Armstrong to Detroit for Andy Delmore, Dustin Boyd to Nashville for 2010 4th rounder, Aaron Johnson & conditional pick to Edmonton for Steve Staois
  • 2009 (Sutter): Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson & 2009 2nd rounder to Colorado for Jordan Leopold; Matt Lombardi, Brandon Prust & conditional 1st rounder to Phoenix for Olli Jokinen; Kevin Lalande to Columbus for 4th rounder

Riveting, I know.

12:50pm:
Ten minutes. Flames chatter conspicuously absent from the Twitter machine.

1:00pm:
And we're at the deadline. Trades HAVE to be in the league office as of right now to be processed. Trade calls will be going on consistently throughout the next...however long it takes to do them all. Expect a flurry of announcements over the next hour.

Hopefully there's a Flames trade or two in there.

1:05pm:
Pierre LeBrun indicated that Lee Stempniak may be heading to Pittsburgh. Elliotte Friedman saying maybe something between Calgary and Colorado.

1:09pm:
Adrian Dater is saying Berra may be going to Colorado.

1:19pm:

1:25pm:
Still waiting for details on the potential Stempniak and Berra moves. Flames don't have any extra human bodies in town, so they'd need to bring up a forward and/or a goalie.

1:27pm:

1:55pm:
Still waiting on Burke. Only deal we're expecting to hear about is Reto Berra to Colorado.
An underwhelming trade deadline to say the least.

2:00pm:
Reportedly Ben Hanowski is on is way up, too. (Ryan Pinder got a tweet from a person in Abbotsford that saw him and MacDonald at the Abby airport.)

2:12pm:
Official trade is Reto Berra to Colorado for the Avs' second rounder in this year's draft. Blown away by that return. That's a great get for a guy who was essentially Calgary's back-up.

2:24pm::

Flames now have a 1st (own), two 2nds (own and Colorado's), two 3rds (own and one from Penguins), a 6th (Anaheim's), and their own 7th. Their 4th was sent to Toronto for Joe Colborne, their 5th went to St. Louis for Kris Russell, then 6th went to Dallas for Lane MacDermid.

Bear in mind, we're waiting for official confirmation that the pick from Pittsburgh is for this year's draft.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#101 Kent Wilson
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Michael wrote:

Does this mean the pressure is on Burke to resign Cammy, even if it means overpaying?

I think so.

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#102 Bean-counting cowboy
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Bean-counting cowboy wrote:

I'm guessing the team in on Vanek was using Cammy as leverage in the negotiations as a backup plan. Burke knew this and hands were tied. Hope he had enough time after Vanek got done to make something happen. Hope Burkie had a plan B.

Hmmmn. Vanek to MTL. Guess they were likely not using Cammy as leverage.

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#103 ?
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Dave wrote:

where is the evidence for his imminent departure?

Cammy staying during the rebuild would be beneficial by keeping the competitive attitude alive, educating the younger players, reaching the cap floor, winning a few hockey games. All of those are immensely important things.

Flames still have Gio, Stajan, Wideman, Hudler, Smid, GlenX, Jones, etc. Lots of established NHLers who can bring leadership. Is 1 guy gonna make a huge difference on a rebuilding team.

I think not

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#104 ?
March 05 2014, 01:28PM
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Dave wrote:

where is the evidence for his imminent departure?

Cammy staying during the rebuild would be beneficial by keeping the competitive attitude alive, educating the younger players, reaching the cap floor, winning a few hockey games. All of those are immensely important things.

Evidence for him leaving?

He didn't resign in 09 when the Flames were a playoff team, why would he resign when their challenging for worst in the league? Money? He could get similar money on the open market.

Not to mention the fact that Cammi probably wants to win a Stanley Cup, cuz he ain't getting any younger

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#105 John
March 05 2014, 01:29PM
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At least Edmonton got a 3rd and 5th for Hemsky, we got buttkus for Cammy.

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#106 Kent Wilson
March 05 2014, 01:29PM
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That Stemps to PIT trade rumour seems to have disappeared.

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#107 Parallex
March 05 2014, 01:30PM
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@Dave

Where is the evidence that he'll want to stay? Are we going to give him term and $$?

All those important things you mentioned can be done by other players all of whom we can sign come July and don't cost us what Cammy could have netted in return.

Unless people are wrong and there is still a Cammy trade coming this can't be seen as anything but an epic fail by Burke.

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#108 jdthor
March 05 2014, 01:30PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I think so.

If the potential return was so low for Burke doesn't that help in negotiations? If no one was willing to give up anything for him then I can't imagine they'd be willing to pay him all that much either.

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#109 Carlizzle
March 05 2014, 01:31PM
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Moulson to the Wild

Vanek dealt as well, waiting to see...

Vanek to the Habs

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#110 Jeff In Lethbridge
March 05 2014, 01:32PM
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OK, what are the chances we get ROR for Berra.... i know, its a bit of a stretch

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#111 Pizzaman
March 05 2014, 01:33PM
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If TVA and Lavoie gets the news on Cammy first (i.e. no trade)does that mean the leak is our French Canadian coaching staff?

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#112 mk
March 05 2014, 01:33PM
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What's the pick we're getting for Berra? 5th round?

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#113 Jeff In Lethbridge
March 05 2014, 01:33PM
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If the potential return was so low for Burke doesn't that help in negotiations? If no one was willing to give up anything for him then I can't imagine they'd be willing to pay him all that much either.

i don't know if i'd see it that way... i think the player has all the chips because of free agency

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#114 cgyokgn
March 05 2014, 01:34PM
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I actually thought Berra had been playing much better recently but his overall numbers aren't great. I guess they'll be leaning on Ortio going forward... a bit like an audition. I hope they do play him and not put Joey Mac back in net (except when there are back-to-back games), although I assume he'll be called up. Is Ramo done for the season?

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#115 Primo
March 05 2014, 01:35PM
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I'm assuming Burke has some kind of confirmation from Cammy's agent that he will re-sign here. I hope......it's in writing!

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#116 Parallex
March 05 2014, 01:38PM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

i don't know if i'd see it that way... i think the player has all the chips because of free agency

Yeah, Cammy has all the leverage now... he makes Burke pay up or Burke looks the fool for not trading him when he had the chance.

If Burke wanted to keep Cammy his pen should have been put to paper before the deadline if not your just crossing your fingers that you didn't make a huge mistake.

Dear Brian Burke... something is better then nothing.

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#117 prendrefeu
March 05 2014, 01:41PM
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Can we get an article comparing Burke and Feaster in their abilities to make or fail trades? Thanks.

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#118 Dave
March 05 2014, 01:41PM
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@Parallex

I Just don't think "any return" is worth giving up Cammy.

"All those important things you mentioned can be done by other players all of whom we can sign come July and don't cost us what Cammy could have netted in return."

All of those things can be done by others to various degrees, however Cammy may be better than others at a)winning hockey games, b)providing internal competition c)educating young players on off ice fitness/training.

I was totally cool with the Flames trading Cammy if the return was right. But defiantly not for anything. If Burke got a 3rd and a 5th for Cammy that would have been a lot worse and how many people on here would be declaring Burke as fail?

Regarding Evidence to him staying my point is simply that there is no concrete evidence either way so to make a statement like he's definitely leaving is as much speculation as saying he's definitely going to re sign.

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#119 RexLibris
March 05 2014, 01:42PM
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Given the market values, where does Cammalleri rank?

St. Louis - 1st, conditional pick and pending UFA Vanek - 2nd rounder and prospect Moulson + - prospect and TBA Hemsky and Goc - 3rd and 5th round picks Penner - 4th round pick

I'd slot Cammalleri in the Hemsky/Goc range on account of size and recent concussion.

So would Flames fans rather have taken say a 4th or a 3rd round pick for him than risk losing him for nothing, or at best a very, very late pick for his negotiation rights should it come to that?

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#120 danglesnipecelly
March 05 2014, 01:42PM
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Random tweet across the bottom of TSN's coverage just said that they're Stempniaks cousin and that he's going to the Pens... haha still hope??

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#121 piscera.infada
March 05 2014, 01:44PM
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Jesus. People just losing their minds, eh? Calm down everyone, I doubt the return in a Cammy trade was really going to make or break the "rebuild". Sure, would like to have seen something, but meh, sometimes things don't materialize - for whatever reason.

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#122 Jakester
March 05 2014, 01:44PM
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fail

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#124 mk
March 05 2014, 01:46PM
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@danglesnipecelly

Stempniak for Crosby? Sounds about fair. Though, to account for the cap we'd be taking, they should throw in a couple 1st round picks...

Oh, I should wake up. Only dreams...

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#125 ?
March 05 2014, 01:49PM
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I don't know why some trumpet Burke's abilities to make trades and when he fails to make one that we pegged for months, they brush it off as nothing.

How can you just say "ah whatever"? This was an asset that needed to be cashed in, hanging onto guys and not getting anything for them is a mistake.

Unless Cammaleri resigns in CGY, this was a pretty big fail on Brian Burke, and make no mistake, this is on him. He could have lowered his price and gotten something. All those trade scenarios that were created for Cammi were obviously overvaluing him. Quite frankly, I would've been over the moon with a 2nd for him and a 3rd for Stemps.

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#126 suba steve
March 05 2014, 01:50PM
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@piscera.infada

Does kinda put into perspective the returns last year (Iggy), we got something but most said not enough. This year no trade (Cammi) and many are saying shoulda taken whatever may have been offered.

In the long term, Burke can stick with the claim that "the price is what I'm asking, if you don't want to pay it, I will keep the asset." Could be a benefit in coming years? But not moving Cammi does HURT. Buff made so many deals and scored so many picks.

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#127 Parallex
March 05 2014, 01:54PM
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@RexLibris

Why aren't you including Gaborik?

Frankly... considering that for every two reason someone can come up with for Cammy to elect to stay I can probably think of two for him to elect to go.

It was a simple decision making process... will Cammy sign an acceptable extension before the deadline yes or no. If yes, try to trade and if prices not to your liking sign if no make the best deal you can... it'll be better then the conditional 6th round pick you'll get on draft day.

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#129 Carlizzle
March 05 2014, 01:59PM
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With Berra being dealt, and Ramo still on IR, and Ortio now in the spotlight, who is his backup? and please don't friggin' say it's Macbackup.

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#130 Taylor McKee
March 05 2014, 02:03PM
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So, Hanowski is on his way up? Does anyone play for Abbotsford anymore?

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#131 piscera.infada
March 05 2014, 02:04PM
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@suba steve

I completely agree with you. It hurts. That said, I'm not going postal. It just seems like we'll never really know exactly what happened and what was offered from whom. It's just not the end of the world in my opinion.

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#132 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:04PM
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With Berra being dealt, and Ramo still on IR, and Ortio now in the spotlight, who is his backup? and please don't friggin' say it's Macbackup.

It's MacFrigginBackup.

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#133 Primo
March 05 2014, 02:04PM
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Relax everyone let's be positive....let me see....we are going to be very well positioned this year and next for top 1-2 picks. That is exactly what this franchise requires! (Ekblad and McDavid) !!

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#135 Taylor McKee
March 05 2014, 02:07PM
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Relax everyone let's be positive....let me see....we are going to be very well positioned this year and next for top 1-2 picks. That is exactly what this franchise requires! (Ekblad and McDavid) !!

I am not sure hanging on to these vets puts us in that position. Tank nation should be most upset with today's inactivity IMO

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#137 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:09PM
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So far the Brian Burke administration is making me miss the Jay Feaster administration... Feaster at least got something for our upcoming UFA forward. It appears the sum total of Brian Burkes GM contribution to the rebuild will be trading Berra for a 5th and an AHL guy for a facepuncher.

I'm curious if prices are so low now does this make trading Bouwmeester when we did a blessing in disguise? I shudder to think what would have happened if he'd been held onto.

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#138 mk
March 05 2014, 02:13PM
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It looks like Western Canada will be a goalie wasteland for the next little bit. Everyone is either a rookie, very inexperienced or not very good.

Lack (he of 26 NHL games) looks like the best in the west. Wow.

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#139 Stan
March 05 2014, 02:14PM
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2nd round pick for Berra. Confirmed. Thats astounding value. Gotta be happy with that, even though I'm pretty choked we didn't move more of our UFAs.

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#140 RexLibris
March 05 2014, 02:16PM
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That Burke didn't trade Cammalleri even for mid-round picks is a serious error.

Did he not say yesterday that all picks have value? That they are all plausible ways of bringing talent into an organization?

Perhaps Burke retains Cammalleri for another season or two. But given the current trajectory of the Flames, and Cammalleri's declining play and the emergence of the new culture of youth in the NHL, I rather doubt that he will re-sign in Calgary.

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#141 seve927
March 05 2014, 02:16PM
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The 2nd I'll take. I liked Berra, but a pick around 40 is just fine.

Hopefully he doesn't turn into a star, but even if he does, it's a good return right now.

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#142 Stan
March 05 2014, 02:19PM
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Stempniak to Pittsburgh. Return TBA.

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#143 Taylor McKee
March 05 2014, 02:20PM
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The 2nd I'll take. I liked Berra, but a pick around 40 is just fine.

Hopefully he doesn't turn into a star, but even if he does, it's a good return right now.

That Berra trade is larceny

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#144 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:22PM
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How do we get a 2nd for Berra and nothing for Cammy? The world is all topsy-turvy right now.

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#145 danglesnipecelly
March 05 2014, 02:23PM
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I figured 5th-7th for Berra. A 2nd is robbery IMO

If the return for Stemp is decent then I'm declaring today not so bad afterall. Sign Cammy and today is a victory.

No one overpaid for anything except for maybe Det?

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#146 Primo
March 05 2014, 02:23PM
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Getting a second for Berra is just a taste of what Burke will do for the Flames! Berra a 27 year old goalie who let's huge rebounds out and can't hold a lead in the 3rd period gets you a second rounder! Yah!

If Burke signs Cammy which I believe he will do he will then in essence ensure his young players are surrounded with solid veterans. Remember the Oiler model??

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#147 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:24PM
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@Primo

Doesn't make up for getting nothing for Cammy.

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#148 Dave
March 05 2014, 02:25PM
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I couldn't agree more!

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#149 piscera.infada
March 05 2014, 02:27PM
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How Berra goes for more than Stempniak is beyond me. Maybe that winger market was really slow today...

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#150 mk
March 05 2014, 02:27PM
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2nd round pick for Berra. Confirmed. Thats astounding value. Gotta be happy with that, even though I'm pretty choked we didn't move more of our UFAs.

I'm floored by this. I don't understand at all. Burke must've had a hard time keeping a straight face during the trade call. Oh well, good for us and Berra.

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