2014 Trade Deadline Live Blog

Ryan Pike
March 05 2014 09:22AM

Intrepid boy reporter (and FlamesNation's managing editor) Ryan Pike is hunkered down in the deep recesses of the Scotiabank Saddledome for the 2014 NHL trade deadline. If something goes down today in regards to your Calgary Flames, we'll be all over it.

And if nothing much happens for awhile, we'll do our best to keep you informed and entertained nonetheless. Follow along here at on Twitter: @FlamesNation and @RyanNPike.


9:15am:

Howdy, all. I've just arrived at the Saddledome. With just 11 healthy forwards available for tonight, the Flames have officially recalled Corban Knight and Max Reinhart from the AHL. Knight's been solid with the Heat this year, while Reinhart has reportedly really taken a big leap forward after getting his head kicked in last year (he was -26). Knight has 37 points in 57 games, while Reinhart has 45 points in 51 games. Knight'll wear #10 for the Flames, while #MaxPower returns to his customary #59.

9:40am:
For the curious, here's where the rosters sit as of now - you're gonna feel bad for the few diehard Heat fans here.
FLAMES: Berra & Ortio (G); Smid, Russell, Giordano, Wideman, Brodie, Butler & Smith (D); Colborne, Knight, Backlund, Cammalleri, McGrattan, Bouma, Stempniak, Monahan, Hudler, Byron, Galiardi & Granlund (F); Ramo, D.Jones, Westgarth, Glencross (injured); Stajan (personal/unavailable)
HEAT: MacDonald & Roy (G); Wotherspoon, Breen, Ramage, Arsene, Billins, LaFranchise & O'Brien (D); Street, Elson, Jooris, Trupp, Kremyr, B.Jones, Lyon, Locke, Hanowski, Bancks, Baertschi & Olson (F); Sieloff, Ferland, Foster, Gillies (injured)
So...yeah. Not a heck of a lot going on on the farm. They're without their #1 goalie, their two most dangerous scorers and their top two-way pivot. And they weren't an amazingly deep squad to begin with. If a defender needs to be recalled, it'll be Wotherspoon. If another forward needs to come up... I got no idea. Hanowski? Street? I can't imagine they bring up Baertschi unless they really, really need him.

10:05am:
Derek Smith has cleared waivers.

10:28am:
Flames are on-ice for practice. Everyone's here except for Matt Stajan, Derek Smith and T.J. Galiardi.

10:45am:
Derek Smith has been officially assigned back to Abbotsford. The Flames roster is, at this point, at 22 bodies. Stajan is non-roster, while Westgarth, Ramo, Jones and Glencross are all on the IR.
By the by, Joe Meloni at College Hockey News is reporting (via Twitter) that "I guess everyone figured this. But all signs point to Gaudreau signing in CGY as soon as BC's season is over."

11:22am:
Practice and media availabilities are over the Flames. Galiardi's hurt and Smith got sent down, so the Flames have the bare minimum of healthy NHL bodies right now. If somebody gets shipped out, they'll need a body back (from Abbotsford or elsewhere) to fill out their line-up.
As expected, gigantic scrum for Corban Knight in the locker room. Tons of media here, which is somewhat unusual for a game-day skate.

11:30am:
Granted, they're a development team that this is what was always gonna happen, but you gotta feel a bit bad for the Abbotsford Heat. They play Texas, one of the better teams in the AHL, and by my recollection, they don't have enough centers. Ruh-roh.

12:06pm:
We're an hour from the deadline and so far, the biggest news is that lunch has arrived. Still no chatter whatsoever from the usual suspects regarding Flames moves.

12:31pm:
Still nothing yet. For giggles, Calgary's last 5 years of deadline day moves:

  • 2013 (Feaster): Blake Comeau to Columbus for 5th rounder
  • 2012 (Feaster): Nothing; signed Tim Jackman to extension
  • 2011 (Feaster): 7th rounder to Atlanta for Frederik Modin
  • 2010 (Sutter): Curtis McElhinney to Anaheim for Vesa Toskala, Riley Armstrong to Detroit for Andy Delmore, Dustin Boyd to Nashville for 2010 4th rounder, Aaron Johnson & conditional pick to Edmonton for Steve Staois
  • 2009 (Sutter): Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson & 2009 2nd rounder to Colorado for Jordan Leopold; Matt Lombardi, Brandon Prust & conditional 1st rounder to Phoenix for Olli Jokinen; Kevin Lalande to Columbus for 4th rounder

Riveting, I know.

12:50pm:
Ten minutes. Flames chatter conspicuously absent from the Twitter machine.

1:00pm:
And we're at the deadline. Trades HAVE to be in the league office as of right now to be processed. Trade calls will be going on consistently throughout the next...however long it takes to do them all. Expect a flurry of announcements over the next hour.

Hopefully there's a Flames trade or two in there.

1:05pm:
Pierre LeBrun indicated that Lee Stempniak may be heading to Pittsburgh. Elliotte Friedman saying maybe something between Calgary and Colorado.

1:09pm:
Adrian Dater is saying Berra may be going to Colorado.

1:19pm:

1:25pm:
Still waiting for details on the potential Stempniak and Berra moves. Flames don't have any extra human bodies in town, so they'd need to bring up a forward and/or a goalie.

1:27pm:

1:55pm:
Still waiting on Burke. Only deal we're expecting to hear about is Reto Berra to Colorado.
An underwhelming trade deadline to say the least.

2:00pm:
Reportedly Ben Hanowski is on is way up, too. (Ryan Pinder got a tweet from a person in Abbotsford that saw him and MacDonald at the Abby airport.)

2:12pm:
Official trade is Reto Berra to Colorado for the Avs' second rounder in this year's draft. Blown away by that return. That's a great get for a guy who was essentially Calgary's back-up.

2:24pm::

Flames now have a 1st (own), two 2nds (own and Colorado's), two 3rds (own and one from Penguins), a 6th (Anaheim's), and their own 7th. Their 4th was sent to Toronto for Joe Colborne, their 5th went to St. Louis for Kris Russell, then 6th went to Dallas for Lane MacDermid.

Bear in mind, we're waiting for official confirmation that the pick from Pittsburgh is for this year's draft.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 Robert Johnson
March 05 2014, 02:48PM
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Much ado about nothing. The Flickers are one of the worst sports organizations on the planet.

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#2 Jakester
March 05 2014, 03:25PM
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God I sure hate the oil but how nice would a Hall be on this team right now?

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#3 Jakester
March 05 2014, 03:10PM
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As a nucks fan I gotta say berra for a 2nd is a nice pickup. However this is going to be a looooongggg rebuild.

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#4 Lee
March 05 2014, 11:05AM
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We need to keep Smid, hes a machine since coming to Calgary. Calgary needs a number one goaltender. Berra and Ramo have been good. But we need someone for the next 2-3 as a number one. There have been 36 games decided by one goal, for a win or a loss. Halak, or Ward would fit in good for Calgary

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#5 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:24PM
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@Primo

Doesn't make up for getting nothing for Cammy.

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#6 Jakester
March 05 2014, 05:27PM
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@Jeff In Lethbridge

Monahan is the only piece you got.. Oh and I heard jankowski is a steal...

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#7 RexLibris
March 05 2014, 01:42PM
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Given the market values, where does Cammalleri rank?

St. Louis - 1st, conditional pick and pending UFA Vanek - 2nd rounder and prospect Moulson + - prospect and TBA Hemsky and Goc - 3rd and 5th round picks Penner - 4th round pick

I'd slot Cammalleri in the Hemsky/Goc range on account of size and recent concussion.

So would Flames fans rather have taken say a 4th or a 3rd round pick for him than risk losing him for nothing, or at best a very, very late pick for his negotiation rights should it come to that?

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#8 Kurt
March 05 2014, 03:10PM
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I don't understand how people are supportive of keeping Cammy. The guy has already packed his bags. There is ZERO chance he stays. Absolutely none. Why would he?

Burke played chicken, tried to wait until Vanek happened, and got stuck. Now he'll try to spin it.

Why on earth would Cammy resign. There is no reason. He'll make more money, in the city of his choosing, likely on a contending team in the summer. Even if we match money, I can't fathom why he would stay.

So ya, getting a 6th rounder for him would have been humiliating, but less stupid than getting nothing.

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#9 SoCalFlamesFan
March 05 2014, 11:34AM
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I have been waiting for this day, the hope of some more prospects maybe picks, and a hope of playoffs for Cammy and others who deserve another shot. If nothing happens I will be disappointed and Burke should get fired tomorrow (Gross incompetence).

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#10 beloch
March 05 2014, 10:24AM
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Rumor: Hemsky to Ottawa for a 3rd and a 5th.

That's more than he's worth, but kudos to him for escaping that sinking ship.

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#11 Dave
March 05 2014, 01:41PM
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@Parallex

I Just don't think "any return" is worth giving up Cammy.

"All those important things you mentioned can be done by other players all of whom we can sign come July and don't cost us what Cammy could have netted in return."

All of those things can be done by others to various degrees, however Cammy may be better than others at a)winning hockey games, b)providing internal competition c)educating young players on off ice fitness/training.

I was totally cool with the Flames trading Cammy if the return was right. But defiantly not for anything. If Burke got a 3rd and a 5th for Cammy that would have been a lot worse and how many people on here would be declaring Burke as fail?

Regarding Evidence to him staying my point is simply that there is no concrete evidence either way so to make a statement like he's definitely leaving is as much speculation as saying he's definitely going to re sign.

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#12 ?
March 05 2014, 09:46AM
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Wow Marty St.Louis, what a prick

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#13 Dave
March 05 2014, 12:57PM
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If the Flames can resign Cammy and Stemps I'll be very happy about that.

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#14 ?
March 05 2014, 01:49PM
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I don't know why some trumpet Burke's abilities to make trades and when he fails to make one that we pegged for months, they brush it off as nothing.

How can you just say "ah whatever"? This was an asset that needed to be cashed in, hanging onto guys and not getting anything for them is a mistake.

Unless Cammaleri resigns in CGY, this was a pretty big fail on Brian Burke, and make no mistake, this is on him. He could have lowered his price and gotten something. All those trade scenarios that were created for Cammi were obviously overvaluing him. Quite frankly, I would've been over the moon with a 2nd for him and a 3rd for Stemps.

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#15 RexLibris
March 05 2014, 02:16PM
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That Burke didn't trade Cammalleri even for mid-round picks is a serious error.

Did he not say yesterday that all picks have value? That they are all plausible ways of bringing talent into an organization?

Perhaps Burke retains Cammalleri for another season or two. But given the current trajectory of the Flames, and Cammalleri's declining play and the emergence of the new culture of youth in the NHL, I rather doubt that he will re-sign in Calgary.

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#16 Dave
March 05 2014, 01:15PM
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@?

Keeping Cammy is not nothing

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#17 piscera.infada
March 05 2014, 01:44PM
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Jesus. People just losing their minds, eh? Calm down everyone, I doubt the return in a Cammy trade was really going to make or break the "rebuild". Sure, would like to have seen something, but meh, sometimes things don't materialize - for whatever reason.

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#18 Jakester
March 05 2014, 01:44PM
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fail

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#19 Kmp
March 05 2014, 02:28PM
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A 2nd for Berra is a nice return, watch Roy turn him into a star.

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#20 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:38PM
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Primo wrote:

No question he will SIGN Cammy! You heard it here first!

He can't just sign him... it has to be a reasonable (i.e relatively short no more then two years) deal.

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#21 Parallex
March 05 2014, 03:11PM
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@etianap

It is immensely disappointing... I'm pretty sure that if you told people a day or two ago that we'd be walking out of the deadline with just a 2nd and a 3rd few if any people would believe you.

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#22 ?
March 05 2014, 01:15PM
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Wow Cammaleri didn't get traded. That's a direct mistake on Burke's part, cuz something is better than nothing.

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#23 mk
March 05 2014, 01:33PM
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What's the pick we're getting for Berra? 5th round?

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#24 Parallex
March 05 2014, 02:09PM
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So far the Brian Burke administration is making me miss the Jay Feaster administration... Feaster at least got something for our upcoming UFA forward. It appears the sum total of Brian Burkes GM contribution to the rebuild will be trading Berra for a 5th and an AHL guy for a facepuncher.

I'm curious if prices are so low now does this make trading Bouwmeester when we did a blessing in disguise? I shudder to think what would have happened if he'd been held onto.

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#25 etianap
March 05 2014, 02:40PM
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Disappointing. I hoped for at least late 1st rounder for McKeown or Goldobin. I also wanted the deck somehow cleaned for Knight, Granlund, Reinhart, Baertschi Gaudreau next year.

As for Berra, he played better and better as the season moved on. I don't know if the evaluation has been completed. Hopefully, this trade will not haunt as in the future years if Colorado indeed saw something in him. From our goalie depth from the beginning of season Ramo, Berra, McDonald, Ortio, Gillies, Broissot (practically many unknowns but more shots) we will be not so deep at the beginning of the next season (Ramo established NHLer but with not huge upside, expiring Mac, Ortio, Gillies and unknown Roy. Two good things: 1. At least we don't get rid of Berra cheap (is after all a 2nd rounder - as we envisaged for Stajan or Stempniak) and 2. The goalies market looks to be very liquid (we won't be naked if the things will go bad with Ortio.

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#26 Baalzamon
March 05 2014, 03:00PM
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The only bad thing about the Berra trade is we have to watch Joey MacDonald again.

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#27 kittensandcookies
March 05 2014, 03:03PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

The only bad thing about the Berra trade is we have to watch Joey MacDonald again.

I heard he has to wear a paper bag over his head while on the bench.

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#28 BurningSensation
March 05 2014, 03:05PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

A 2nd for Berra is surprisingly good.

That is something of an understatement isn't it?

We got more for Berra than Edmonton did for Hemsky, and I NEVER saw that coming.

All of which makes the deal for J-Bo; Poirier, a 2nd, and Cundari.

Nice.... ;-)

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#29 Parallex
March 05 2014, 03:36PM
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Why wouldn't we have believed that as our return?

Burke doesn't have a history of trade deadline deals, let alone fire-sales, the market for flawed scoring wingers was glutted (Vanek, Moulson, Hemsky, etc.), and the majority of teams are capped out.

Burke just got us a 2nd round pick for RETO FREAKING BERRA, I am not only NOT disappointed, I am ecstatic!

So out of Butler, Cammy, Stempniak, Berra you expected to acquire less then a 2nd and a 3rd? Suuuuure you did.

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#30 Kevin R
March 05 2014, 10:34AM
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Burnward wrote:

Burkie looks like he has an ace up his sleeve...

Wonder if Stevie Y wants Jiri Didler(Hudler) & that extra 1st in 2015 looks mighty tasty in a package back. We have so much cap space, maybe a move for Callahan & give him his 5 years for 6.5mill might be worth it. We need to get to the ceiling so that justifies the overpay$$$ & he would make a great leader for the wave of young guys we are about to bring in. Ive always liked him as a player.

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#31 BurningSensation
March 05 2014, 10:56AM
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Bean-counting cowboy wrote:

Glen Sather has descended to near madness.

'Near'?

Trading a 1st and a 2nd for St Louis is bad enough, but he threw in his captain as well.

Pure. Nutzo.

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#32 ?
March 05 2014, 01:20PM
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Dave wrote:

Keeping Cammy is not nothing

Yea of course, cuz he'll be huge in a rebuild 3 years from now.

Cammi's leaving July 1, everyone is pointing in that direction

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#33 Jeff In Lethbridge
March 05 2014, 01:32PM
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OK, what are the chances we get ROR for Berra.... i know, its a bit of a stretch

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#34 prendrefeu
March 05 2014, 01:41PM
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Can we get an article comparing Burke and Feaster in their abilities to make or fail trades? Thanks.

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#35 piscera.infada
March 05 2014, 02:39PM
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Is it just me or would Pierre LeBrun look far more normal if he didn't have that ridiculous goatee? It makes him look like he has absolutely no chin.

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#36 etianap
March 05 2014, 02:55PM
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Kent, Ryan, What are the chances to see yet the Flames we another 1st rounder by a trade moving up or by unloading some of resigned UFAs before deadline?

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#37 etianap
March 05 2014, 03:21PM
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@Parallex

I'm not even sure about the 3rd pick. As I've understood from TSN the Pittsburgh deal for Stempniak was a late call and perhaps will not be registered by the league. The Flames website also announced the Berra deal, but nothing about Stempniak. It would be a disappointment for Stemps too because he could easily be traded to a legit contender. On the other hand I think he should be resigned. He is decent point producer, he has leadership qualities, he embraced the rebuilding, he is a good PK guy. From the UFAs at the beginning of the season I hoped favored Cammalleri, Stajan and Butler clearing up the deck. On the other hand I thought that we should resign Stempniak if we do not have more than a 2nd round return. We'll see if it is a deal with the Penguins and if not what Burke think about Stempniak.

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#38 Kurt
March 05 2014, 03:28PM
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Jakester wrote:

As a nucks fan I gotta say berra for a 2nd is a nice pickup. However this is going to be a looooongggg rebuild.

As a Flames fan I gotta say. Nucks are screwed. Your team is in the denial/bubble/post-apex/declining phase still. I hope you stay there for 3-4 years and keep re-upping the Sedins until they are too old to be worth anything and get dealt for pennies on the dollar at trade deadline.

At that point you'l be ready to start your looooooooooooooooooongggg rebuild.

Enjoy. You should be back in the playoffs by 2023 if things go well.

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#39 Bean-counting cowboy
March 05 2014, 09:38AM
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Glen Sather has descended to near madness.

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#40 Kevin R
March 05 2014, 12:47PM
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I cant take this anymore. WTF WTF WTF Im going to go walk the dog, take a crap & then get me a stiff Crown. Wake me up when this thing is over. I cant believe we do nothing!!!! Bottom 5 team with marketable NHL UFA's & we cant even get 7th round pick. :( :(

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#41 Dav
March 05 2014, 01:08PM
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I know I'm in the minority but I would prefer to have these vets re signed. Trade then WHEN they become redundant not before. For me it goes back to letting the younger players earn their spots by outplaying the vets.

I am fully aware that this can create a log jam of players but I don't think the flames are at that point.

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#42 Parallex
March 05 2014, 01:20PM
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If Cammy walks come July Burke becomes a worse GM for us then Feaster.

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#43 Bob Cobb
March 05 2014, 01:21PM
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Apparently the only thing Burke had up his sleeve was his arm and hopefully a comb.

So now Calgary has no goalies, is the tank job on in Calgary or does Burke still think the playoffs are possible?

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#44 Dave
March 05 2014, 01:24PM
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@?

where is the evidence for his imminent departure?

Cammy staying during the rebuild would be beneficial by keeping the competitive attitude alive, educating the younger players, reaching the cap floor, winning a few hockey games. All of those are immensely important things.

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#45 RexLibris
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Joey Mac is still in the minors as well.

I think that was Bob Cob's point.

;)

Very underwhelming TD day for the Flames.

I would have thought Stempniak would be worth a 3rd rounder, but seeing Penner go for a 4th yesterday pretty much torpedoed his value.

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#46 ?
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Dave wrote:

where is the evidence for his imminent departure?

Cammy staying during the rebuild would be beneficial by keeping the competitive attitude alive, educating the younger players, reaching the cap floor, winning a few hockey games. All of those are immensely important things.

Flames still have Gio, Stajan, Wideman, Hudler, Smid, GlenX, Jones, etc. Lots of established NHLers who can bring leadership. Is 1 guy gonna make a huge difference on a rebuilding team.

I think not

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#47 John
March 05 2014, 01:29PM
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At least Edmonton got a 3rd and 5th for Hemsky, we got buttkus for Cammy.

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#48 Parallex
March 05 2014, 01:38PM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

i don't know if i'd see it that way... i think the player has all the chips because of free agency

Yeah, Cammy has all the leverage now... he makes Burke pay up or Burke looks the fool for not trading him when he had the chance.

If Burke wanted to keep Cammy his pen should have been put to paper before the deadline if not your just crossing your fingers that you didn't make a huge mistake.

Dear Brian Burke... something is better then nothing.

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#49 Primo
March 05 2014, 02:04PM
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Relax everyone let's be positive....let me see....we are going to be very well positioned this year and next for top 1-2 picks. That is exactly what this franchise requires! (Ekblad and McDavid) !!

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#50 danglesnipecelly
March 05 2014, 02:23PM
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I figured 5th-7th for Berra. A 2nd is robbery IMO

If the return for Stemp is decent then I'm declaring today not so bad afterall. Sign Cammy and today is a victory.

No one overpaid for anything except for maybe Det?

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