Flames Sign Gaudreau & Arnold

Ryan Pike
April 11 2014 05:00PM

And it's official.

The Calgary Flames have formally announced the signing of NCAA standouts Johnny Gaudreau and Bill Arnold to entry-level contracts. Both are expected to meet the team in Vancouver and may be in the line-up for Sunday's finale against the Vancouver Canucks.

Per the team, terms are three years for Gaudreau with a cap hit of $1.85 million, and two years for Arnold with a cap hit of $900,000. The first year will burn off both contracts (and neither can go to Abbotsford).

Arnold, 21, was Calgary's fourth round selection in the 2010 NHL Draft. He's had a pretty strong NCAA career; he made the All-Rookie Team, made the American World Junior team, won an NCAA Championship, and emerged as one of the best three-zone players in the entire NCAA. He put up 144 points in 159 games with Boston College. He'll wear #46.

Gaudreau, 20, was the Flames fourth rounder in 2011, and has been probably the best collegiate prospect of any team over the past couple of years. He's won an NCAA Title, a gold medal at the World Juniors, two Hockey East MVPs and just locked down a Hobey Baker. He put up 175 points in 119 games with Boston College. He'll wear #53.

And now, everybody exhale. They both signed. Everything's gonna be just fine.

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#51 Burnward
April 11 2014, 07:31PM
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Not sure how good the Flames will be...but the Heat might not lose a game next year.

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#52 Primo
April 11 2014, 07:34PM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

It has to with CBA, NCAA players are treated differently than CHL players; I believe if Gatinue loses to Halifax tonight then Poirier could play for the Heat as he has already signed a contract(same a Klimchuk I believe)if I'm wrong I'm okay with being corrected.

On another matter; last night I heard on the Oilers game that Hockey Canada invited four Oilers to the worlds: Perron who said yes, and RNH, Eberle, and Hall who said they would have to think about it. Is there any news about whom might have been invited from the Flames? If no whom do people thinks should be invited; for me it would makes sense to invite Gio and Brodie as a tandem and possibly Monahan with a look to the future.

CP...funny how a class hockey player like Perron quickly accepted the opportunity. With Eberle, RNH and Hall having to think about things really tells me a lot about the character of those players! Wonder why the Oilers remain pathetic despite the high talent of young players??

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#53 TRAV
April 11 2014, 07:39PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I think every nervous nelly who polluted our threads with their incessant whining about Feaster/Burke/ownership are; not doing enough/should be flying his parents somewhere/screwing up getting JG/running the franchise into the ground, turn up to apologize to everyone for the giant waste of time they perpetuated.

I mean seriously. We had people here parsing parental interviews like CIA Kremlinologists looking for hints that a Soviet tank commander might be ready to defect, and then turning their fantastic powers of observation on to how Boston will be where JG ends up and how we'll get nothing for him.

I realize there is a marked lack of drama in their lives, but the levels they were willing to go to invent it was simply jawdropping.

I get what you're saying. However I also think that these sorts of conversations are the nature of a blog spot. Truthfully I just tuned out and skipped past the natter.(chose not to comment or engage) HOw people decide to spend their time and energy doesn't bother me all that much.

Having said that WOW! I feel optimistic about our future. Do we think that an Arnold / Backland comparison is reasonable?

And as I also like to point out... Jay Feaster made some good moves.

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#54 BobbyO
April 11 2014, 07:40PM
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You heard it here first! At this years draft Burke will complete a trade with the Blackhawks that will see the Flames acquire Kevin Hayes, a former 1st rounder. Kevin Hayes happens to be the 3rd guy on the Guadreau - Arnold line with BC.

The Flames will then have the most prolific line in USA College hockey history! Yah!

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#55 KingQuong
April 11 2014, 07:46PM
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for one meaningless game?

GO ON

To give them a taste of the NHL game and experience it to see what they need to work on this summer.

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#56 BurningSensation
April 11 2014, 07:48PM
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@TRAV

"And as I also like to point out... Jay Feaster made some good moves"

Feaster made some AWESOME moves, especially in retrospect:

- Getting Cammalleri and Ramo out of Montreal (this deal is all but a total rout, except that the 2nd rounder ended up being Zach Fucale)

- Fleecing Sather in the Erixon deal

- Drafting JG. In the 4th.

Etc. Feaster really doesn't get enough love.

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#57 Craig
April 11 2014, 07:50PM
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The real reason they get a game is because they needed to convince these guys to sign immediately. This one game is to sweeten the deal.

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#58 Chambers
April 11 2014, 07:54PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

We moved past it being 'a little nervousness' a long, long time ago.

Take a look at the comment threads the last week, that's not 'nervousness', thats 'full blown panic, with large sides of anxiety, and prophecy of doom'.

The parental comments were utterly unconcerning, and should have been treated as the third hand comments from a media outlet motivated by page hits that they were.

As for my hindsight being 20/20, my foresight was even better. I called this months ago, and reiterated all last week that the unending flop sweat over JG was pointless.

When a team with empty cupboards (at the time) loses a first rounder highly regarded defenseman in Tim Erixon, Flames fans have every right to be nervous. No "prophecy's of doom" as you say just ordinary hockey fans expressing opinions on a hockey blog intended to express opinions!

Glad you pointed out you made the right call! Very astute on your part. Please explain how you made your call on a very complex situation that had all the other Flame fans perplexed?? How did you develop such exceptional hindsight?

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#59 MontanaMan
April 11 2014, 07:55PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

"And as I also like to point out... Jay Feaster made some good moves"

Feaster made some AWESOME moves, especially in retrospect:

- Getting Cammalleri and Ramo out of Montreal (this deal is all but a total rout, except that the 2nd rounder ended up being Zach Fucale)

- Fleecing Sather in the Erixon deal

- Drafting JG. In the 4th.

Etc. Feaster really doesn't get enough love.

One wonders about the fairness in firing Feaster. Clearly he made some poor trades but name a GM out there who hasn't. His drafting record (with Weisbrod) looks better with every signing. Taking the high road, if he is not cut out for a GM position, maybe Feaster needs to run a scouting program for an NHL team.

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#60 Primo
April 11 2014, 08:10PM
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@MontanaMan

Feaster was simply a victim of circumstance! New leader comes in and will bring in his own people! Despite Feaster's great accomplishments he is toast. Not fair but welcome to the politics of the NHL.

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#61 BurningSensation
April 11 2014, 08:19PM
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Chambers wrote:

When a team with empty cupboards (at the time) loses a first rounder highly regarded defenseman in Tim Erixon, Flames fans have every right to be nervous. No "prophecy's of doom" as you say just ordinary hockey fans expressing opinions on a hockey blog intended to express opinions!

Glad you pointed out you made the right call! Very astute on your part. Please explain how you made your call on a very complex situation that had all the other Flame fans perplexed?? How did you develop such exceptional hindsight?

A. Flames fans were right to be 'nervous' after Erixon's stunt, but these threads were chock a block of sheep stampeding over a cliff. Factor in that Feaster absolutely killed the Erixon deal, and it was clearly unwarranted.

B. There were definitely 'prophecies of Doom' in abundance round here. Go back and read the threads, the end of the world was definitely nigh.

C. Of course you can express your opinions round here. Just don't whine when the rest of us point out that your opinions are wrong.

D. The way I made my call was simple. The number of entry level players who spurn their drafting team is vanishingly small, on the order of one every two years for the whole league. So out of the hundreds of players who are picked each year at the draft chances are half of one will try to game the system. Given Calgary had already had one of these rare events occur to them, the chances that another player would pull the same stunt successfully was infinitesimal. But of course, some Flames fans prefer to treat the rare event (Erixon being a douche) not as a statistical event, but as a narrative one.

To put it another way, the chances that JG walked on the Flames were about the same as Edmonton landing another Justin Schultz FA signing.

E. Not all us fans were 'perplexed' by the 'complex situation'. Some of us saw it for what it was. The routine signing of a draft pick who went to college.

F. It was not exceptional 'hindsight', it was intelligent foresight. Feel free to review my comments on the matter in previous threads. I said the idea that JG would jump was bunk, and I said it early and often.

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#62 MontanaMan
April 11 2014, 08:20PM
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Primo wrote:

Feaster was simply a victim of circumstance! New leader comes in and will bring in his own people! Despite Feaster's great accomplishments he is toast. Not fair but welcome to the politics of the NHL.

I get that and many ways I agree with it. If I'm the President, I'm picking my own guy as well. But in this case, Burke doesn't appear to be bringing in his own guy (we'll need to see who he hires). If he's bringing in "his guy" he's got him hired before the firing and replaces Feaster within a month. If you believe Burke and media reports, he has offered the job to Nieuwy and is looking forward to interviewing several GM's or Ass't GM's at the end of the year. This doesn't sound like he's got someone targeted and really doesn't justify the timing of Feaster's demise. Unfortunately, this smacks of Burke's arrogance and was more about power than a hockey decision.

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#63 kevin
April 11 2014, 08:28PM
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Canes and isles win! These two sign oh what a perfect day

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#64 Primo
April 11 2014, 08:32PM
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@MontanaMan

Agree with much of what you say! Bringing your own guy may also involve an extensive evaluation of managerial talent which may involve personnel on teams that will not allow discussions prior to the draft.

I'm OK with Burke's arrogance and power hunger as long as he satisfy's my personal thirst for a short rebuild and a winning hockey team that will not only make the playoffs but go deep...soon! I'm guessing 2 -3 years!

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#65 A Rye Morning
April 11 2014, 08:41PM
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And start the fourth line.

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#66 MacG84
April 11 2014, 08:56PM
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Have to give Burke some credit for this. He put the fears (legitimate or not) to rest early and got it done. Still not a Burke guy but this is a good mark in my book.

That said i was so stoked to hear the news, and i can't wait to see if these two are as good as we hope they are.

Being a Flames fan in Vancouver finally pays off as i can see their first game live, for cheap, you know, because of the dumpster fire here...

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#67 RKD
April 11 2014, 09:02PM
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I sure am glad the Flames signed this dynamic duo. Gaudreau is a very special player and this tandem will be important for the Flames rebuild and future in general. I wonder if they will keep #46 and #53 for next season. Probably due to lack of choice as others are taken, but I suggest they keep them to be unique.

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#68 Captain Spaulding
April 11 2014, 09:04PM
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Hilarious.... Someone has an engorged hockey boner also gross. Hey Johnny G welcome to Calgary you give me a boner. That may make him think again about signing. How ever too late hahahahaha. Also Bookofloob why are you being a bonerkill? IT is pretty sweet to get some more potential awesomeness. I don't care how much fetti it saves is the future I just like to cheer for the good shiznit and this seems to be some good shiznit. So woooooohoooooo and for those of you that were crying like little babies wahhh johnny hockey isn't going to sign I agree you probably should've chilled out a little.

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#69 Chambers
April 11 2014, 09:05PM
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@RKD

Speaking of numbers if Cammy does not return Im sure JG will take his college number 13.

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#70 Burnward
April 11 2014, 09:15PM
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@Captain Spaulding

Not a real boner. A hockey boner homey! My 85 is a 110 today!

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#71 Captain Spaulding
April 11 2014, 09:17PM
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Like I said hilarious!

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#72 Flash
April 11 2014, 09:44PM
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The Flames seem to have a strict numbering system for players. Rookies have high numbers and need to earn a lower number.

Are there any other teams that do that?

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#73 wes
April 11 2014, 10:02PM
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@theCalgaryJames

inhale. exhale. inhale exhale. where is franchise? inhale. exhale...

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#74 Walter White
April 11 2014, 10:03PM
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Chambers wrote:

WW.... quit being a pussy. Do you think Johnny is going to grow 5 inches in the off season? He is not a kid..he is 21, a college graduate and a professional hockey player with the Flames. He has been waiting for this moment his entire life and you are going to destroy his confidence before he plays his first shift!! What are you going to tell him?? Be patient?

Be a man WW !!!

I hope I won't be saying "I told you so" on Sunday night.........

Tortellini is going to want his pound of flesh; don't you think he has been watching sports net? He knows we are giddy...... Fingers crossed.

WW

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#75 Burnward
April 11 2014, 10:06PM
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@Walter White

Pretty sure they'll have Big Ern riding shotgun 5 on 5.

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#76 BobbyO
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Flash wrote:

The Flames seem to have a strict numbering system for players. Rookies have high numbers and need to earn a lower number.

Are there any other teams that do that?

It's common practice in the NHL. Rookies get ugly numbers until they are proven and are told they have made the team. Then they get the selection of the so called premium numbers.

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#77 Question for beloche
April 11 2014, 10:19PM
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What was the SCORE in tonight's game ??? who won ? My CANUCKS will destroy the Flames and their two new DAFoDILS on Sunday night! Book it! Who is the TROLL now GENIOUS!!!

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#78 Walter White
April 11 2014, 10:29PM
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Burnward wrote:

Pretty sure they'll have Big Ern riding shotgun 5 on 5.

For as good of a fighter he is; unfortunately no one is scared of him, as he is a honourable fighter who only fights willing combatants......as long as you don't drop your gloves with him you won't get beat down.

We need an enforcer with a couple of screws loose, some one who may just lose his mind and put someone in the hospital.

Ie. Shawn Thornton (and he scored 5 goals this year and is a +2)

WW

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#79 broochesjustcrappedhispants
April 11 2014, 10:35PM
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Walter White wrote:

For as good of a fighter he is; unfortunately no one is scared of him, as he is a honourable fighter who only fights willing combatants......as long as you don't drop your gloves with him you won't get beat down.

We need an enforcer with a couple of screws loose, some one who may just lose his mind and put someone in the hospital.

Ie. Shawn Thornton (and he scored 5 goals this year and is a +2)

WW

Are you crazy???

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#80 Burnward
April 11 2014, 10:36PM
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@Walter White

Nope. Big Ern will smash someone if they cheapshot the kid.

He treats respect with respect. If they show us none, that goes both ways.

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#81 FlamesRule
April 11 2014, 10:37PM
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MontanaMan wrote:

I get that and many ways I agree with it. If I'm the President, I'm picking my own guy as well. But in this case, Burke doesn't appear to be bringing in his own guy (we'll need to see who he hires). If he's bringing in "his guy" he's got him hired before the firing and replaces Feaster within a month. If you believe Burke and media reports, he has offered the job to Nieuwy and is looking forward to interviewing several GM's or Ass't GM's at the end of the year. This doesn't sound like he's got someone targeted and really doesn't justify the timing of Feaster's demise. Unfortunately, this smacks of Burke's arrogance and was more about power than a hockey decision.

Here comes Nonis now that Shanny is in T.O.

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#82 WW
April 11 2014, 10:37PM
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broochesjustcrappedhispants wrote:

Are you crazy???

How dare you talk to me like that beloche!!!

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#83 Walter White
April 11 2014, 10:38PM
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Nope. Big Ern will smash someone if they cheapshot the kid.

He treats respect with respect. If they show us none, that goes both ways.

I've never seen it....

WW

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#84 Walter White
April 11 2014, 10:40PM
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broochesjustcrappedhispants wrote:

Are you crazy???

You're not from round here, are you?

WW

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#85 ?
April 11 2014, 11:25PM
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I think the nervousness was warranted, but only because 1) Gaudreau is a hell of a prospect and 2) The Schultz thing happened only a couple of years ago, so it was still fresh in everyones mind.

THE REBUILD IS COMPLETE!!

Lol jk, but its a good start I'd say.

Nicely done Burke

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#86 Jeff Lebowski
April 12 2014, 12:38AM
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? wrote:

I think the nervousness was warranted, but only because 1) Gaudreau is a hell of a prospect and 2) The Schultz thing happened only a couple of years ago, so it was still fresh in everyones mind.

THE REBUILD IS COMPLETE!!

Lol jk, but its a good start I'd say.

Nicely done Burke

Burke has very little (if anything) to do with it. Jay Feaster is who you should be praising for Gaudreau.

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#87 loudogYYC
April 12 2014, 12:54AM
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MontanaMan wrote:

One wonders about the fairness in firing Feaster. Clearly he made some poor trades but name a GM out there who hasn't. His drafting record (with Weisbrod) looks better with every signing. Taking the high road, if he is not cut out for a GM position, maybe Feaster needs to run a scouting program for an NHL team.

Dude, Feaster and Weisbrod were brutal at drafting. Feaster's greatest strength was letting people do their job and whenever he didn't do that, he'd make a mistake. Just look at Jankowski, the almost signing of Brad Richards and ROR.

I give Feaster credit for the moves he made to strengthen our farm team and for mostly giving the drafting reins to Button during his time here. I wouldn't go as far as saying he should run a scouting program though.

He deserved to be removed from the GM position.

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#88 ChinookArch
April 12 2014, 05:39AM
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Question for beloche wrote:

What was the SCORE in tonight's game ??? who won ? My CANUCKS will destroy the Flames and their two new DAFoDILS on Sunday night! Book it! Who is the TROLL now GENIOUS!!!

You spelled genius wrong.

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#89 Jeff In Lethbridge
April 12 2014, 07:11AM
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Burke must have flown down to talk with the family afterall

:-P

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#90 ?
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Jeff Lebowski wrote:

Burke has very little (if anything) to do with it. Jay Feaster is who you should be praising for Gaudreau.

I'm praising him for getting the contract signed, especially considering what Gaudreau's parents reportedly wanted.

He deserves credit for that, and I think his presence at USA Hockey might've factored in as well.

But no doubt, you're right. The guy who deserves the most praise for drafting Gaudreau is Feaster (or maybe Button).

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#91 SmellOfVictory
April 12 2014, 11:44AM
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Dude, Feaster and Weisbrod were brutal at drafting. Feaster's greatest strength was letting people do their job and whenever he didn't do that, he'd make a mistake. Just look at Jankowski, the almost signing of Brad Richards and ROR.

I give Feaster credit for the moves he made to strengthen our farm team and for mostly giving the drafting reins to Button during his time here. I wouldn't go as far as saying he should run a scouting program though.

He deserved to be removed from the GM position.

You can't say Feaster was brutal at drafting when he didn't make a draft pick in his tenure. Jankowski was a Weisbrod pick, not a "Weisbrod and Feaster" pick.

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#92 suba steve
April 12 2014, 11:57AM
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@Primo

Iginla refused invitations yearly. So by your standards, Iggy is not a class hockey player and is of questionable character?

There is often more to these decisions. These are not robots. Injuries, family issues, etc. are all factors. And in the end, does anyone really care about the Worlds anyway?

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#93 amaninvan
April 12 2014, 05:36PM
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Have to give Burke some credit for this. He put the fears (legitimate or not) to rest early and got it done. Still not a Burke guy but this is a good mark in my book.

That said i was so stoked to hear the news, and i can't wait to see if these two are as good as we hope they are.

Being a Flames fan in Vancouver finally pays off as i can see their first game live, for cheap, you know, because of the dumpster fire here...

See you there my fellow Flame Fan in Van friend. Another chance to wear my Flaming C and hold my head high. I'll even bring some red crying towels for those idiot 'green men'.

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#94 MonsterPod
April 12 2014, 07:25PM
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Craig wrote:

The real reason they get a game is because they needed to convince these guys to sign immediately. This one game is to sweeten the deal.

Exactly. It burns a year of their contract but they get paid. That's a lot of summer spending money for one game. Otherwise, Arnold may have walked.

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#95 Skuehler
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Hey big congrats to Feaster, Weisbrod, Button, Burke, Conroy, Gaudreau and Arnold. This is great news for the org and the fans. The drama made it sweeter in the end.

While we have similar records to the other western Canadian teams, looks like the future is bright and the flames are finishing the season on a super positive note.

Can't wait for the tournament in Penticton if they have it this year. $9 tix to see all our prospects at once!! It's gonna be awesome.

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#96 loudogYYC
April 13 2014, 01:16AM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

You can't say Feaster was brutal at drafting when he didn't make a draft pick in his tenure. Jankowski was a Weisbrod pick, not a "Weisbrod and Feaster" pick.

The GM let the AGM take a huge risk by trading down to 21, missing out on Girgensons, Ceci, Hertl, Teravainen or Maatta and then goes as far as saying they think Jankowski will be the best player out of the 2011 draft. Let's not kid ourselves, it was Feaster's pick too. He didn't let his director of scouting do his job.

I'm not trying to crap all over Feaster, I actually liked a lot of his ideas and some of the things he did. In the end though, the position was probably too big for him and Weisbrod.

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#97 Jeff In Lethbridge
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i just wish there were some way to actually lose the last game of the year against vancouver for draft position, but theres no way that happens.

vancouver is currently more lost then flight 370 and no pings have been heard for months.

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#98 KingQuong
April 14 2014, 12:11PM
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loudogYYC wrote:

Dude, Feaster and Weisbrod were brutal at drafting. Feaster's greatest strength was letting people do their job and whenever he didn't do that, he'd make a mistake. Just look at Jankowski, the almost signing of Brad Richards and ROR.

I give Feaster credit for the moves he made to strengthen our farm team and for mostly giving the drafting reins to Button during his time here. I wouldn't go as far as saying he should run a scouting program though.

He deserved to be removed from the GM position.

You can't say Brad Richards would've done the same here as he did and is doing now in new York different situation different systems different coach different media

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