Flames Sign Gaudreau & Arnold

Ryan Pike
April 11 2014 05:00PM

And it's official.

The Calgary Flames have formally announced the signing of NCAA standouts Johnny Gaudreau and Bill Arnold to entry-level contracts. Both are expected to meet the team in Vancouver and may be in the line-up for Sunday's finale against the Vancouver Canucks.

Per the team, terms are three years for Gaudreau with a cap hit of $1.85 million, and two years for Arnold with a cap hit of $900,000. The first year will burn off both contracts (and neither can go to Abbotsford).

Arnold, 21, was Calgary's fourth round selection in the 2010 NHL Draft. He's had a pretty strong NCAA career; he made the All-Rookie Team, made the American World Junior team, won an NCAA Championship, and emerged as one of the best three-zone players in the entire NCAA. He put up 144 points in 159 games with Boston College. He'll wear #46.

Gaudreau, 20, was the Flames fourth rounder in 2011, and has been probably the best collegiate prospect of any team over the past couple of years. He's won an NCAA Title, a gold medal at the World Juniors, two Hockey East MVPs and just locked down a Hobey Baker. He put up 175 points in 119 games with Boston College. He'll wear #53.

And now, everybody exhale. They both signed. Everything's gonna be just fine.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 ???
April 11 2014, 05:05PM
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Now that is genuinely GREAT news.

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#2 loudogYYC
April 11 2014, 05:07PM
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F*ckin finally. No more stupid Schultz/Gaudreau debates!!

This is great news, I hope Hartley gives him plenty of PP time on Sunday.

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#3 theCalgaryJames
April 11 2014, 05:08PM
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Getting my tickets! Gotta see Johnny's first game!

Shouldn't be hard as Rogers Arena looks like sunbelt expansion team's arena.

Great day to be a flames fan!

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#4 coachedpotatoe
April 11 2014, 05:08PM
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Boy I'm sure glad we spent all that time huffing and puffing on whether he would sign over the last few days. Now the big test comes, will he be as good at te next level as we all hope he is.

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#5 etianap
April 11 2014, 05:19PM
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I was always in the camp of strategical/realistic/cynical/mean tanking camp. But for Sunday, forget about Ekblad/Bennet/Draisatl/Dal Colle; it's all about Johnny Hockey. And for the next year forget about McDavid/Eichel/Barzal; let's be trustworthy with Gaudreau, Backlund, Monahan, Brodie, Baertschi, Granlund, Wotherspoon, Knight, Colborne. Very excited about young guns.

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#6 Mort
April 11 2014, 05:20PM
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Exciting news!

You know, perhaps due to all the praise Johnny Hockey gets, it seems like Bill Arnold is always in his shadow a bit. I think if they weren't both Flames prospects and players on the same college team, there would be a lot more praise for Arnold than there already is. I would not be at all surprised if he turns into a very solid and reliable NHL'er.

No doubt Gaudreau is great though, and he deserves a lot of credit. Just wanted to say I'm very excited for both players. :)

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#7 theCalgaryJames
April 11 2014, 05:20PM
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So what do we think for line combos?

I'm thinking:

Byron - Cammy - Galliardi GlenX - Mono - Colborne Gaudreau - Arnold - Hudler Van Brabant - Bouma - McG

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#8 Victoria Flames Fan
April 11 2014, 05:21PM
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Was there ever any doubt? Lol.

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#9 BurningSensation
April 11 2014, 05:23PM
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I think every nervous nelly who polluted our threads with their incessant whining about Feaster/Burke/ownership are; not doing enough/should be flying his parents somewhere/screwing up getting JG/running the franchise into the ground, turn up to apologize to everyone for the giant waste of time they perpetuated.

I mean seriously. We had people here parsing parental interviews like CIA Kremlinologists looking for hints that a Soviet tank commander might be ready to defect, and then turning their fantastic powers of observation on to how Boston will be where JG ends up and how we'll get nothing for him.

I realize there is a marked lack of drama in their lives, but the levels they were willing to go to invent it was simply jawdropping.

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#10 Baalzamon
April 11 2014, 05:24PM
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Looks like Arnold will wear #46. They will be awesome.

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#11 Mort
April 11 2014, 05:25PM
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Victoria Flames Fan wrote:

Was there ever any doubt? Lol.

Can't tell if sarcasm.....

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#12 Baalzamon
April 11 2014, 05:26PM
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@Mort

Arnold is a beast. He'll be an awesome 3rd liner for a veritable eternity IMO.

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#13 Quintana
April 11 2014, 05:27PM
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Hockey futures is saying he is 5.07 ft and 153 lbs, is that true?

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#14 ChinookArch
April 11 2014, 05:34PM
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My personal expectation of myself will be to have quiet optimism for both players. For me, I'll be happy with their timelines and NHL ceilings.

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#15 Taylor McKee
April 11 2014, 05:34PM
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Quintana wrote:

Hockey futures is saying he is 5.07 ft and 153 lbs, is that true?

Who knows? His true height is written on the back of the declaration of independence

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#16 Bikeit
April 11 2014, 05:35PM
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The flames future version of Cliff Ronning? Similar size and skill package. I'd be ok with that.

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#17 Tommynotsohuge
April 11 2014, 05:41PM
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I'm absolutely going nuts right now. I am so pumped they have both signed. The new future core of Backlund, Gio, Monahan, Gaudreau, Baertschi, Brodie, Ramo and this year's pick is very, very promising. Just a question though, does anyone know what our contract number is? We must be pushing 50 now

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#18 etianap
April 11 2014, 05:43PM
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I have a dream...

In 2016-2017

Gaudreau - Monahan - James Neal (trade/UFA)(elite)(two way scorer)(productive sniper)

Klimchuk - Backlund - Poirier (sniper) (2way & possession) (speedy, pesky,productive)

Baertschi - Granlund - Colborne/Agostino (offensive winger)(vision, scorer) (support winger)

Ferland - Arnold - Bouma (gritty) (two way shut down center with offensive upside) (hit provider, shot blocker)

Ekblad - Brodie (complete defender) (transition defender)

Giordano - Wotherspoon (complete defender) (stay home defender)

Sieloff - Kanzig (gritty, hit provider) (stay home tower)

Gillies (big athletic goaltender)

Ramo (skilled, reliable well rounded goalie)

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#19 coachedpotatoe
April 11 2014, 05:49PM
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theCalgaryJames wrote:

So what do we think for line combos?

I'm thinking:

Byron - Cammy - Galliardi GlenX - Mono - Colborne Gaudreau - Arnold - Hudler Van Brabant - Bouma - McG

I believe you need to factor Stajin in here somewhere and possibly Agustino(his friendship with Johnny might be interesting) While is great for the one game hype I am more excited about the future.

As it stands we have the following veteran NHL forwards signed Hudler, Glenx, Stajan, Backs,Djones and McG. We have the following emerging NHL forwards; Monahan, Colborn, Bouma and Byron. We have the following key prospects: Johnny, Sven, Granlund, Poirier, Klimchuk, Ferland, Rhino, Knight, Arnold, Agostino; plus the others. This should be exciting; we should be able to roll 4 solid lines. We still need to add some more bigger skilled forwards but we have a good starting point; let the battles begin.

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#20 Walter White
April 11 2014, 05:55PM
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PLEASE don't play the kids in the Vancouver game!!!!!

The Canucks have some of the cheapest players in the NHL; have you forgotten what Kassian did to Gagner?? Or to that other poor sap cutting him in the leg with his skate?

Why give these cheap shot artists a free shot at some of the key pieces of our teams future in a meaningless game?

Do you think Vancouver has forgotten about the "goons vs first line" episode?

Use your thinker Burke!!

WW

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#21 the-wolf
April 11 2014, 05:59PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I think every nervous nelly who polluted our threads with their incessant whining about Feaster/Burke/ownership are; not doing enough/should be flying his parents somewhere/screwing up getting JG/running the franchise into the ground, turn up to apologize to everyone for the giant waste of time they perpetuated.

I mean seriously. We had people here parsing parental interviews like CIA Kremlinologists looking for hints that a Soviet tank commander might be ready to defect, and then turning their fantastic powers of observation on to how Boston will be where JG ends up and how we'll get nothing for him.

I realize there is a marked lack of drama in their lives, but the levels they were willing to go to invent it was simply jawdropping.

Some of the nervousness was warranted. The parental comments were concerning. Had JG decided to play another year, it'd be a massive risk not moving him. Hindsight is 20/20. Fans were just expressing their anxieties. No big deal.

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#22 CTibs
April 11 2014, 06:00PM
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I'm a bit confused about the contract situation. Why can't they go to Abbotsford (not that I want to see them there) and why is one year already being burned?

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#23 coachedpotatoe
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Walter White wrote:

PLEASE don't play the kids in the Vancouver game!!!!!

The Canucks have some of the cheapest players in the NHL; have you forgotten what Kassian did to Gagner?? Or to that other poor sap cutting him in the leg with his skate?

Why give these cheap shot artists a free shot at some of the key pieces of our teams future in a meaningless game?

Do you think Vancouver has forgotten about the "goons vs first line" episode?

Use your thinker Burke!!

WW

Solution is play them against the Sisters.

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#24 the-wolf
April 11 2014, 06:02PM
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Massively excited about these signings btw.

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#25 beloch
April 11 2014, 06:05PM
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An important life skill is not worrying too much about the improbable even if it has happened to you in the past. Hopefully Gaudreau's signing will help some people learn this.

Gaudreau and Arnold were great together in the NCAA and are buddies who have dreamed of debuting in the NHL together. Hopefully they'll be on a line together in Vancouver!

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#26 coachedpotatoe
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CTibs wrote:

I'm a bit confused about the contract situation. Why can't they go to Abbotsford (not that I want to see them there) and why is one year already being burned?

It has to with CBA, NCAA players are treated differently than CHL players; I believe if Gatinue loses to Halifax tonight then Poirier could play for the Heat as he has already signed a contract(same a Klimchuk I believe)if I'm wrong I'm okay with being corrected.

On another matter; last night I heard on the Oilers game that Hockey Canada invited four Oilers to the worlds: Perron who said yes, and RNH, Eberle, and Hall who said they would have to think about it. Is there any news about whom might have been invited from the Flames? If no whom do people thinks should be invited; for me it would makes sense to invite Gio and Brodie as a tandem and possibly Monahan with a look to the future.

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#27 Justin Azevedo
April 11 2014, 06:09PM
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@BurningSensation

yes

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#28 Walter White
April 11 2014, 06:23PM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

Solution is play them against the Sisters.

The sisters and.........Kasian? Kessler? With Bieksa on D?

Too hard to manage over 60 minutes.

Play it safe........be patient until next year.

WW

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#29 Primo
April 11 2014, 06:40PM
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@Mort

I have been following Arnold's college somewhat. This kid has a great attitude, size, speed and reasonably soft hands. Very strong off the face off circle and exceptional on the PK. A solid third line centre, power forward with some scoring touch!

What's very important is his friendship with Johnny Hockey! With Augostino these 3 guys are the springboard to our rebuild IMO!

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#30 bookofloob
April 11 2014, 06:41PM
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Playing him on Sunday is dumb.

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#31 BobbyO
April 11 2014, 06:45PM
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CTibs wrote:

I'm a bit confused about the contract situation. Why can't they go to Abbotsford (not that I want to see them there) and why is one year already being burned?

Has nothing to do with the contract situation.

Have you ever heard of 'rules' ??

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#32 Chambers
April 11 2014, 06:52PM
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Walter White wrote:

The sisters and.........Kasian? Kessler? With Bieksa on D?

Too hard to manage over 60 minutes.

Play it safe........be patient until next year.

WW

WW.... quit being a pussy. Do you think Johnny is going to grow 5 inches in the off season? He is not a kid..he is 21, a college graduate and a professional hockey player with the Flames. He has been waiting for this moment his entire life and you are going to destroy his confidence before he plays his first shift!! What are you going to tell him?? Be patient?

Be a man WW !!!

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#33 Clyde
April 11 2014, 06:53PM
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bookofloob wrote:

Playing him on Sunday is dumb.

Why?

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#34 bookofloob
April 11 2014, 06:55PM
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@Clyde

is that a serious question?

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#35 Baalzamon
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@CTibs

The first year is "burned" because the contracts start right now and since both players are 20 or older they do not slide (whereas Poirier's, Kanzig's and Klimchuk's contracts will slide this season because they are all U20. Poirier's will activate next season because he will be considered 20 years old by virtue of his late birthdate).

As for why they can't be sent to the Heat, it's just an arbitrary rule that evidently exists.

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#36 Chambers
April 11 2014, 06:59PM
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bookofloob wrote:

is that a serious question?

Not playing him would be dumber! In fact it would be the dumbest decision Hartley would make the entire season!

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#37 Clyde
April 11 2014, 07:03PM
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bookofloob wrote:

is that a serious question?

Yes, why is it dumb to play these two in your opinion?

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#38 bookofloob
April 11 2014, 07:03PM
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@Chambers

for one meaningless game?

GO ON

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#39 BurningSensation
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the-wolf wrote:

Some of the nervousness was warranted. The parental comments were concerning. Had JG decided to play another year, it'd be a massive risk not moving him. Hindsight is 20/20. Fans were just expressing their anxieties. No big deal.

We moved past it being 'a little nervousness' a long, long time ago.

Take a look at the comment threads the last week, that's not 'nervousness', thats 'full blown panic, with large sides of anxiety, and prophecy of doom'.

The parental comments were utterly unconcerning, and should have been treated as the third hand comments from a media outlet motivated by page hits that they were.

As for my hindsight being 20/20, my foresight was even better. I called this months ago, and reiterated all last week that the unending flop sweat over JG was pointless.

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#40 Brent G.
April 11 2014, 07:06PM
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Can these players start next year in Abbotsford or are they stuck in the NHl?

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#41 Clyde
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bookofloob wrote:

for one meaningless game?

GO ON

It won't be meaningless to them. It's an opportunity to give a little taste and start relationship building.

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#42 Baalzamon
April 11 2014, 07:09PM
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@Tommynotsohuge

According to CapGeek they're at 52--but that's including Culkin, Kulak, Kanzig, Poirier, Klimchuk, and Sieloff who are all sliding to next season (and some of them further). Still, that's a lot of contracts. Some people will have to be cut loose (fortunately there are some easy decisions in there like David Eddy, James Martin, and Chris Breen). Some folks will likely be flipped for draft picks as well.

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#43 Brent G.
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We moved past it being 'a little nervousness' a long, long time ago.

Take a look at the comment threads the last week, that's not 'nervousness', thats 'full blown panic, with large sides of anxiety, and prophecy of doom'.

The parental comments were utterly unconcerning, and should have been treated as the third hand comments from a media outlet motivated by page hits that they were.

As for my hindsight being 20/20, my foresight was even better. I called this months ago, and reiterated all last week that the unending flop sweat over JG was pointless.

I couldn't agree more. People have been whining about the idea of him moving on 2 years ago. It was getting old last season and this year it was just like a bunch of prepubescent girls worrying if they will get asked to prom.

I look forward to what the next overblown reaction will be. It surely will reflect nothing but ignorance and irrationality.

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#44 bookofloob
April 11 2014, 07:10PM
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totally because that's definitely not an option for a whole season next year

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#45 Baalzamon
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They (and Van Brabant and Agostino) can play in the AHL next year. Just like Ben Hanowski did this year.

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#46 Chambers
April 11 2014, 07:17PM
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Brent G. wrote:

Can these players start next year in Abbotsford or are they stuck in the NHl?

Rules apply only to college players joining pro teams in current year. They are not stuck in the NHL this year as you say. They will need to earn there way next year like anyone else!

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#47 loudogYYC
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@bookofloob

You're looking for something that's wrong about this whole thing.

Just enjoy it, man. Johnny G and Arnold definitely will.

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#48 CHAMBERS
April 11 2014, 07:20PM
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bookofloob wrote:

for one meaningless game?

GO ON

Why don't you make your "meaningless" game into a "meaningful" game and use it as a development opportunity! A motivational opportunity! Not exactly rocket science!

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#49 Clyde
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bookofloob wrote:

totally because that's definitely not an option for a whole season next year

Why not get a 4 month head start on that ? I like the idea of them getting a little taste of nhl life. Everything from what a game day looks like to listening to what guys plan on doing in the off season to be in optimum shape for the season. Hartley introduces them to his systems and expectations, etc. these things will be very beneficial.

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#50 Burnward
April 11 2014, 07:28PM
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Hockey boner...engorged.

Wooooooooo!

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