Random Thoughts - June 20 2014

Kent Wilson
June 20 2014 11:30AM

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We're about a week away from the 2014 Entry Draft and the Flames have 5 picks inside the top-90, including a franchise high 4th overall. It's not hyperbole to say this summer will be a pivotal one of the Flames road back to respectability. If they pick a future star or two and not stub their toe horribly in free agency, it will give the club a much better chance of making their up the crowded Western Conference standings ladder.

Of course, the other key consideration is how they develop and manage their current crop of players...

- There's been talk and trade rumors that have included both Mikael Backlund and TJ Brodie recently. It's impossible to overstate how bad a move it would be to trade either of these players now. Not only are they the only two guys within spitting distance of peak age who are also worth a damn on this roster (23 and 25 respectively), they are also grossly underpaid right now according to the level of their contributions. Oh, and they might even improve.

- Because they have yet to put up noteworthy offensive numbers, some Flames fans and much of the league outside of Calgary don't quite understand how good these two guys are. This will help put things into perspective: last year, on a bottom 5 NHL team, Backlund and Brodie played 458 even strength minutes together, mostly against other teams top lines.

The Flames owned a 59.4% Corsi rate with them both on the ice through those 458 minutes. They scored 62.5% of the goals as well. Those aren't merely good ratios, they are elite. For comparison: last season Duncan Keith and Jonathan Toews combined for ratios of 60.1% (Corsi) and 61.% (goals). Other pairings in the same ballpark: Patrice Bergeron/Zdeno Chara and Anze Kopitar/Drew Doughty.

So, in short, the only thing the Flames should be doing with Backlund and Brodie is trying to ink them to long-term extensions as soon as possible. They are two of the pillars around which a new roster can be safely built.

- I've heard a lot of theories about why the Flames were more competitive than expected last year. Many of settle on the Vancouver fight night or team competitiveness narrative. Brian Burke recently claimed as a function that the acquisition of Kevin Westgarth was a key to turning the Flames around because other teams bad guys were loathe to hit the Flames after he arrived.

The truth of it is, the combination of Backlund, Brodie and Giordano was the primary reason the Flames weren't Oiler-esque last year. When those guys weren't on the ice, the Flames mostly got run out of the rink. My hope is the team understands this behind closed doors and covets them appropriately.

- Switching gears, the impending free agent season and the fact the Flames will have to spend a lot of cap space just to get to the floor is both a blessing and a curse.

On the one hand, they have an incredible amount of flexibility which will allow Treliving to get creative should some teams need to shed dollars to make any moves. On the other hand, it opens the club up to potential blunders like overpaying mediocre players or backing up a dump truck full of money for the one or two white whales in the rather thin UFA pool. There will be some opportunities to supplement Calgary's underwhelming middle rotation depth at both forward and defense, but, like every summer, there are land mines everywhere. 

- The best targets on the back-end currently include: Anton Stralman, Matt Niskanen, Mark Fayne and Tom Gilbert. Niskanen will be the most sought after of the bunch so he's probably out. Stralman probably raised his value with the Rangers playoff run, but neverthless there are indications he's a kind of TJ Brodie-esque diamond in the rough whose value is overshadowed by meh counting numbers. Check out this article by Tyler Dellow to see just how well Stralman seemed to push the play in New York the last couple of years.

Mark Fayne is another unknown guy with solid underlying numbers. That said, New Jersey is probably the strangest club in the league when it comes to their possession rates - they are regularly really good, yet the club is always mediocre anyways. Players who leave usually see their possession rates plummet too (cough Clarkson cough). I don't know what's going in NJ, but it makes me...wary of their middling free agents. 

- Stralman should sound familiar to Flames fans. He was briefly Calgary property back in 2009. They acquired him in the Wayne Primeau deal and then quickly flipped him to the Blue Jackets for a 3rd round pick after training camp. At the time the Flames had two "fringe" guys who were waiver eligible in Stralman and Staffan Kronwall. Sutter chose Kronwall who would go on to play 11 NHL games for Calgary before fleeing back to Europe.

- Of course, we know the Flames are likely going to look to beef up the roster a tad, particularly since the club is poised to get even younger going into 2014-15. Which no doubt means names like Matt Green, Clayton Stoner, Brooks Orpik or Willie MItchell on their radar. Greene is a lumbering third pairing guy at best, Mitchell is 37 years old and Orpik has been on the steep decline for a few years. Stoner has been a fringe guy most of his career - he's 29 and last season was his sophomore year in the NHL. He didn't exactly blow the doors off either. So there's not a lot of upside in the coke machine department.

- In case you missed it, word is Calgary has released Chris Butler (another reason they'll be looking for a body for the back-end). It's the right decision.

- There are whispers Calgary wants to acquire another first round pick, preferably in the top-10 range. Of course, every team would like another top-10 pick, so that's not saying much. Assuming this isn't a complete pipe dream, there are a few potential trading partners worth considering: NY Islanders (5), Nashville Predators (11) and the Toronto Maple Leafs (8).

The Islanders and Predators are both clubs more desperate for on-ice results than another young body. They may be convinced to move their picks for some combination of NHL-ready guys (Glencross, Hudler), one or two of the Flames 2nd rounders and a quality prospect (Grandlund, Baertschi, Reinhart). The Leafs aren't really close to contention but they think they are and they're run poorly to boot, so that's why I included them.

Of course, no doubt when Calgary calls any potential trade partner the other GM is going to ask about Brodie, Backlund, Johnny Gaudreau, Sean Monahan and Mark Giordano first and foremost. Treliving should laugh and hang-up if that happens.

- It will be interesting to see Treliving's moves in the next couple of weeks. He arrived in town with a decent resume but without a GM track record. Meaning, we have no idea about his habits or preferences. We also don't know the degree to which Brian Burke with have his hand on the wheel.

As mentioned, this is a fulcrum off-season for the Flames franchise around which the future of the club will pivot for good or ill. The org really needs the new regime to not mess things up. 

- Finally, a little reminder to take the scouting reports you hear about draft prospects with a healthy dose of salt heading into next weekend. If you ever have time on your hands and want a good laugh, go back to draft coverage that is 5 years old and check out the superlatives and comparisons that are heaped on kids that never amounted to anything.

Scouting is a tough gig since only about 15% of prospects ever make the show (and only a small percentage of them actually become difference makers), so this is not necessarily meant to disparage scouts in general or any pundit in particular. Still, it's a stark reminder that this time of year is mostly guess work and reading tea leaves.

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#51 BurningSensation
June 20 2014, 08:38PM
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Rockmorton65 wrote:

Hmmm...Burke hints they like Ritchie....also hints at wanting another top 10 pick...could he maybe want that pick to draft Ritchie should he be available in spots 6-10?

Just a thought

I'm on board with this thinking.

Get one of the consensus top end (Reinhart, Ekblad, Bennett, Draisatl) and then deal for another mid-late round pick to snag one of the skating mountains (Ritchie, Virtanen, Perlini).

My dream-the-impossible-dream is that the Flames get Reinhart (or Bennett), and then trade up with the 2nd rndrs + 'something' to get a pick to use on Virtanen or Nylander, adding two high-skill guys to the cluster at once.

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#52 McRib
June 20 2014, 09:03PM
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May have already been mentioned, but the Flames are flying in Ekblad, Bennett & Reinhart for extended interviews this week. Last year they flew in Monahan, Klimchuk & Petan (Damn I wish we kept that second rounder). I think it is safe to say though if any of those top three are available this year at four they are putting on a Flames sweater come draft day.

I agree with everyone and think Richie's offensive upside is not worth a Top. 5 pick. Interestingly enough though if those three go in order ahead of us do we pick Draistil (Edmonton seems fairly set on him regardless) or Dal Colle... The Flames have had great luck of late taking high character kids and Dal Colle checks off that box (see link below), also Dal Colle has huge upside with a much later birthday (6 1/2-8 months younger) than others available. So I think there is a chance of Dal Colle going ahead of Draistil with our 4th pick... Which thinking of the tandem of Monahan/Dal Colle for years to come is intriguing to say the least. Even if people like Draistil over Dal Colle I think Brian Burke is smart enough to realize Dal Colle's upside over Richie. Also worth mentioning when Brian Burke had a Top. 5 pick with Toronto he took the most offensive upside guy in Morgan Reilly, so I think Richie is really just hearsay from some media outlets trying to get an opinion in. Lets also not forget that Dal Colle is 6'2"+ (plenty of size for Burke), furthermore the fact that Brian Burke isn't even talking about Dal Colle seems like a sign after what he said with GMs sending out confusing messages up to the draft.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=703660

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#53 Sheldon
June 20 2014, 09:20PM
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MonsterPod wrote:

Draisaitl... Draisaitl...

Picture it: 1990. Jagr gets drafted 5th behind Owen Nolen, Petr Nedved, Keith Primeau, and Mike Ricci. None of those guys were busts but none were close to Jagr. Why did Jagr drop to 5?

If the Sams and Ekblad are gone, what do you do?

Dal Colle gets lots of praise. 6'2" and can apparently play center too. Lots to like and Burke said they cannot miss on this one, so if Leon's a drifter, it ain't good. But what if he's not...?

Jagr dropped because it was uncertain at the time if and when he would be able to come over and didn't want to risk their picks.

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#54 McRib
June 20 2014, 09:22PM
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I think the rumours that Florida is shopping Dmitri Kulikov might mean that if they pick first, Aaron Ekblad is their surfefire guy, as they will just slot Ekblad in next year right where Kulikov was.

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#55 Walter White
June 20 2014, 10:03PM
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McRib wrote:

I think the rumours that Florida is shopping Dmitri Kulikov might mean that if they pick first, Aaron Ekblad is their surfefire guy, as they will just slot Ekblad in next year right where Kulikov was.

I hope you are right.....Ekblad in an Oilers jersey would be sickening, especially after all the hi draft picks they have received the last 5 years.

After Ekblad it's a wide open game:

The Canucks fans like Reinhart.

Oiler fans like Daisaitle.

Flames fans like Bennett.

I don't care how it pans out as long as the Oilers don't get Ekblad.......

WW

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#56 Baalzamon
June 20 2014, 10:43PM
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@McRib

I think Brian Burke is smart enough to realize Dal Colle's upside over Richie.

One would hope.

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#57 DoubleDIon
June 20 2014, 11:13PM
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MontanaMan wrote:

Burke was recently interviewed on FlamesTV and openly admitted that all hockey people lie leading up to the draft. So don't read too much into what he or the Flames scouts are saying - it's highly likely they are doing nothing more than posturing.

And on the Backlund front, maybe it's me but why does FlamesNation put such value on him? He's been benched in parts of the past two years and although he's a decent second or third line centre, he certainly hasn't done much to give any hope as a #1 guy. Yes, he's got some potential but I personally don't see him doing much in his NHL career and will be destined in a #3 or at best #2 roll. And I firmly believe there's an even chance he's dealt by the draft.

Because Backlund plays guys like Toews to a standstill. He's an excellent 2 way Centre. The odds of him putting up 80 points are very long but he tilts the ice when he's out there. He's one of the best possession guys in the league. That's why we value him so highly. We don't have an elite player outside of giordano right now so someone who can neutralize elite players is very important to our team.

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#58 Nerfer20
June 20 2014, 11:19PM
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I'm really hoping for Reinhart... We'd have a great PP unit with Reinhart at C, and Mony on RW for it. I watched too many videos of him doing the Stamkos one-timer from the right circle!!

Ur future 1C & 2C's right there!! Reinhart is a future captain

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#59 Primo
June 21 2014, 12:27AM
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TheoForever wrote:

I was of the same believe. However, recently Burke said that while the decision process is one of cooperative think tank and that he can strongly advocate for whatever, the final decision belongs to Treliving.

DoubleDion is correct. At the end of the day BB has full accountability for hockey operations. BT is the GM but he plays under BB rules and philosophy. Obviously it better be aligned!

WW...your welcome in advance for this lesson in organizational effectiveness! The boss has final say even though someday he will make BT the fall guy!

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#60 Primo
June 21 2014, 12:30AM
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Nerfer20 wrote:

I'm really hoping for Reinhart... We'd have a great PP unit with Reinhart at C, and Mony on RW for it. I watched too many videos of him doing the Stamkos one-timer from the right circle!!

Ur future 1C & 2C's right there!! Reinhart is a future captain

According to a few Buffalo journalists the Sabres really want Sam Bennett. If you then go through the selections and believe what you hear about the Oilers wanting Draistl then Reinhart becomes a Calgary Flame.

Yah!!!!!!

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#61 CTibs
June 21 2014, 12:48AM
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I never believed the Ritchie talk. To draft a big guy over a consensus top four player is a whole new level of stupid. We all know that Burke is a truculence and grit guy, but he still has a sense of hockey that will overrule some ideas. Burke isn't going to let 30 extra pounds decide the future of the franchise. He did pass over big guys like Patrik Stefan and Pavel Brendl for two smaller Swedish hockey players.

I really hope we can try and fleece the Leafs for the #8 pick. Dave Nonis has shown a tendency to overpay for players (Dave Bolland, Steve Bernier, Mika Noronen), so I think that the Flames could try and get that pick for a little bit less than they should pay.

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#62 Burnward
June 21 2014, 09:19AM
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Interesting name floated on TSN...Peter Mueller. I totally forgot about him. I think he'd be worth a flyer.

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#63 backburner
June 23 2014, 11:46AM
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BurningSensation wrote:

"He's not real flashy. He doesn't attract you with his finesse so much as his overall performance at all areas of the ice."

A scouting report from the Hockey News...on Jaromir Jagr.

So yeah, sometimes the scouts are a bit off.

That was the "pre-mullet" scouting report...

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