Flames Invite Sheldon Brookbank to Camp Says Report

Ryan Pike
August 29 2014 02:14PM

Calgary Flames general manager Brad Treliving has bemoaned the team's lack of defensive depth all summer. He's seemingly taken a step towards fixing that, via a training camp invitation.

Brookbank turns 34 in October and has a Stanley Cup ring and 351 NHL games under his belt. Now, considering he turned pro in 2001-02 and played his first pro with the Mississippi Sea Wolves, you can probably figure out he's a guy that basically willed himself to as many games as he's gotten. He's played more AHL games in his career than NHL games.

He was Chicago's #7 defender for the past few seasons and previously had stops in Nashville, New Jersey and Anaheim doing basically the same thing, playing a career-high 80 games for Anaheim two seasons ago. He's a replacement-level player, and if he catches on with Calgary it's because they want Tyler Wotherspoon and/or Mark Cundari playing regular minutes in the AHL rather than being an extra body at practice up in Calgary.

And if he's lousy, he's fine with sitting, and he'll probably be a player that can go through waivers and be sent back to the AHL without anyone really fretting about it too much.

If I was a cynical person, I'd also mention that he's not afraid to fight, with six fights last season.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 Taylor McKee
August 29 2014, 02:33PM
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I'd much prefer Cundari, paid his dues in the minors, he's 24, showed some ability. Fish or cut bait with him. Not another retread plz

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#2 PrairieStew
August 29 2014, 02:38PM
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"He's seemingly taken a step towards fixing that"

Things are not always as they seem......

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#3 coachedpotatoe
August 29 2014, 02:45PM
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BT said on Wednesday they were looking to do this so it is no surprise they have done so, I'm not sure he is who I would have invited from the older guys on the UFA list but it is telling.

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#4 mattyc
August 29 2014, 03:03PM
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Somewhere Mark Cundari is really upset. Although, it's just a tryout, so all Cundari has to do is outplay Brookbank (which shouldn't be too hard...)

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#5 redricardo
August 29 2014, 03:03PM
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No downside to this move. Bring in a veteran for a tryout, see how things go. Obviously, if at camp Cundari skates circles around this guy and is clearly better, then the young guy earns the spot. By displacing a veteran. That's how things are supposed to work, and teams get better... right?

Of course, the cynic in me says that even if Cundari does skate circles around him, we'll still sign and play Brookbank and demote Cundari, because #GRITCHART, and intangibles, and whatnot.

But, until this becomes a reality, I'm willing to let it play out.

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#6 Colin
August 29 2014, 03:07PM
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I can't wait for the brookbank/Engelland pairing, that should be a treat to watch.

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#7 Parallex
August 29 2014, 03:22PM
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Blah, yeah... another meathead type.

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#8 Woodyy77
August 29 2014, 03:22PM
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No fret for the "let the kids play" lovers out there. Camp invite is just a means of providing competition to see what the kids have got under a little pressure.

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#9 Kenta
August 29 2014, 03:41PM
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Parallex wrote:

Blah, yeah... another meathead type.

Exactly. Also one of the worst possession defenceman in the NHL last year along with Wideman, Engelland and O'Brien (http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2014/3/30/5564070/the-best-and-worst-possession-players-in-the-nhl-defencemen) At least BT is consistent.

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#10 mtgould89
August 29 2014, 03:44PM
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Oh well. Depth guy, I guess, although I’d prefer Wotherspoon.

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#11 Parallex
August 29 2014, 03:46PM
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redricardo wrote:

No downside to this move. Bring in a veteran for a tryout, see how things go. Obviously, if at camp Cundari skates circles around this guy and is clearly better, then the young guy earns the spot. By displacing a veteran. That's how things are supposed to work, and teams get better... right?

Of course, the cynic in me says that even if Cundari does skate circles around him, we'll still sign and play Brookbank and demote Cundari, because #GRITCHART, and intangibles, and whatnot.

But, until this becomes a reality, I'm willing to let it play out.

I dunno... I think the remote (or sadly in this case distinct) possibility that Brookbank plays for the Flames is a downside. The guy couldn't look good playing for Chicago.... Chicago! Imagine what he'd look like here.

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#12 Taylor McKee
August 29 2014, 04:01PM
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Colin wrote:

I can't wait for the brookbank/Engelland pairing, that should be a treat to watch.

That would be amazing.

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#13 iggyfan
August 29 2014, 04:05PM
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I am trying to be positive about the Flames. I first thought we were getting all of these tough guys to protect the young prospects in the lineup, but now there is no regular roster space for them.

So I guess the diminishing optimist in me is saying that we want is to make camp tough so the young guys can learn to play with goons hunting them.

I guess this is #tankmode if Brookbank makes the team, if it isn't already. Why can't we develop some young guys in the NHL while in #tankmode (Johnny/Sven)?

Maybe we just want Adirondack to win a calder cup, while giving the big club the best shot we can at last place.

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#14 dudeguybro
August 29 2014, 04:09PM
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@mtgould89

I don't, unless Wotherspoon earns a top-6 job he should spend his time playing in the AHL. It's not like he's too good for that league yet. CGY is almost emulating DET with their prospect slow-cook and I don't mind it.

That said, I'd still rather see Cundari as the 7 and Brookbank mentoring the young D in the AHL when camp's over.

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#15 RKD
August 29 2014, 04:47PM
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Brookbank? Really, it's bad enough to have pairing of Smid and Engelland I can't imagine a pairing with Brookbank, yikes. Do we really need to add a 7th d-man? Hell no, we should focus on trying to compliment players to Gio or Brodie. Top 4 d-man don't grow on trees and it's rare to see them go to free agency.

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#16 Burnward
August 29 2014, 04:50PM
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He's just been invited to camp. Breathe.

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#17 Walter White
August 29 2014, 05:43PM
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Finally someone who is not afraid to drop the gloves........for a moment it was starting to look like there would be nothing but pillow fluffers on this team!

WW

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#18 theartfuldodger
August 29 2014, 06:12PM
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@Woodyy77

It may seem as though this is exactly that move? Bring him in for a tryout...makes some competition at camp with a somewhat seasoned NHL player. He acts as a marker to compare the kids to? If he exceeds....great...if a prospects exceeds...even better?

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#19 seve927
August 29 2014, 06:46PM
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RKD wrote:

Brookbank? Really, it's bad enough to have pairing of Smid and Engelland I can't imagine a pairing with Brookbank, yikes. Do we really need to add a 7th d-man? Hell no, we should focus on trying to compliment players to Gio or Brodie. Top 4 d-man don't grow on trees and it's rare to see them go to free agency.

Perfect 7th D. Meaning if 7 guys get injured at once, he's the 7th guy to get the call and sit in the press box.

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#20 RealMcHockeyReturns
August 29 2014, 07:41PM
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@seve927

He yo! He'll be here all week?

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#21 Baalzamon
August 29 2014, 09:31PM
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Whoa. Looks like Deryk Engelland has some competition all of a sudden.

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#22 unitedflames
August 29 2014, 10:10PM
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Lets give him a chance. Lets see what he can do. Its only a try out. It can only be good for the young prospects. No guarantees.

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#23 coachedpotatoe
August 30 2014, 08:25AM
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First it's PTO so it's not such a big deal however when you add it to the Eng's signing at @3m for 3 years (even if he turns out to be a fine #6)it's to much term for a team in a rebuild and he being 32 already.There are several UFA's out there that IMO are better than Eng's on contract or Brookbank on a PTO, I can't believe that management and the professional scouting staff have not at least approached the following McBain and Diaz both of whom have to better than Eng's or Morris as a PTO who while older than Brookbanks clearly had a better season last year, Maybe they have just been flatly rejected.For me the major weakness in the organization has not been adequately addressed this off season; hopefully one of Cundari, Acolaste or Spoon(maybe more than one of them) can make a push for the 5/6 spot during training camp and preseason. Hopefully Sieloff can be healthy and return to form and be in the hunt later in the season. Hopefully Ramages playoff success can help him be a leader on the backend in Addy.

Barring this hopefully BT can make a trade to help improve this position on the team.

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#24 SavardianSpinorama
August 30 2014, 08:49AM
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I don't profess to know how the cap works, but isn't having Deryk Engelland on the roster about the same thing as having a young player you can send down to the minors without fear of someone picking him up on waivers (thanks to a silly contract)? Just because Engelland is here, doesn't mean he will be by December. Maybe he'll end up being a mentor down in Adirondack, albeit an expensive one.

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#25 coachedpotatoe
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SavardianSpinorama wrote:

I don't profess to know how the cap works, but isn't having Deryk Engelland on the roster about the same thing as having a young player you can send down to the minors without fear of someone picking him up on waivers (thanks to a silly contract)? Just because Engelland is here, doesn't mean he will be by December. Maybe he'll end up being a mentor down in Adirondack, albeit an expensive one.

To answer your question I went to capgeek and played armchair GM, with Eng's in the lineup the Flames payroll is $53.2m slightly above the floor of $51, if he is sent down most of his salary still counts on the Flames payroll and so if Cundari is the call up(the lowest salary of the likely call ups) the teams payroll would be $52.9 still above the floor.

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#26 the-wolf
August 30 2014, 09:17AM
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I'd rather see a guy like Baertschi (who this org deoesn't seem keen on giving a legit shot anyways), moved for a young D like McCabe from Buffalo or Gormley from Arizona, who are ready to step in, but also face log jams with their current teams. You know, like something a rebuilding team might do. Starting to look an awful lot like Sutter 2.0 around here.

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#27 coachedpotatoe
August 30 2014, 09:42AM
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the-wolf wrote:

I'd rather see a guy like Baertschi (who this org deoesn't seem keen on giving a legit shot anyways), moved for a young D like McCabe from Buffalo or Gormley from Arizona, who are ready to step in, but also face log jams with their current teams. You know, like something a rebuilding team might do. Starting to look an awful lot like Sutter 2.0 around here.

As to your suggestions of the trade, a deal with Buffalo Sven for McCabe would likely help both organizations but I a not sure that the Flames have totally given up on Sven, The problem right now is we have logjam of forwards who all seem ready for a long look at the NHL level but seem to be up against it via NHL vets who may not have as much upside.

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#28 Baalzamon
August 30 2014, 12:58PM
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@coachedpotatoe

The Sabres haven't "given up" on McCabe either. That sort of trade isn't about "giving up" it's about prudent management.

That said, I'm not sure why Buffalo would have any interest at all in Baertschi. They're not exactly short on smaller scoring forwards (though looking at their system right now, they do seem to be a little thin on LW, somehow). Phoenix Arizona and New Jersey would be better targets, since they both need scoring forwards (NJ in particular, as their system is utterly barren at forward. Pretty much the only worthwhile player up front is Reid Boucher).

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#29 coachedpotatoe
August 30 2014, 01:21PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

The Sabres haven't "given up" on McCabe either. That sort of trade isn't about "giving up" it's about prudent management.

That said, I'm not sure why Buffalo would have any interest at all in Baertschi. They're not exactly short on smaller scoring forwards (though looking at their system right now, they do seem to be a little thin on LW, somehow). Phoenix Arizona and New Jersey would be better targets, since they both need scoring forwards (NJ in particular, as their system is utterly barren at forward. Pretty much the only worthwhile player up front is Reid Boucher).

Thanks for your insight as I was responding to the wolf it was more of general statement. Who do you think is available from either Arizona or the Devils that is an appropriate deal for Sven that would be a good hockey trade for both teams?

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#30 Jeff In Lethbridge
August 30 2014, 01:46PM
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the-wolf wrote:

I'd rather see a guy like Baertschi (who this org deoesn't seem keen on giving a legit shot anyways), moved for a young D like McCabe from Buffalo or Gormley from Arizona, who are ready to step in, but also face log jams with their current teams. You know, like something a rebuilding team might do. Starting to look an awful lot like Sutter 2.0 around here.

i would respectfully disagree with the assesment of Baertschi - I don't think this org has given up on him. He is just fine, and is nowhere near being "ripe" let alone approaching a "best-before" date.

He had issues last year when he had to report to the prospect camp and tournament, and ended up struggling in the minors. he did not earn a spot last year on the club, but i sure don't get the sense that he has been written off. he is still a great prospect who has to put it together a little more.

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#31 Baalzamon
August 30 2014, 03:37PM
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@Jeff In Lethbridge

The fact they gave him #27 certainly implies that there's a place for him in their plans.

@coachedpotatoe

Well, I've been pushing for an Adam Larsson trade for a while now, and I really do think the two teams could make such a trade work. I don't know that he's "available" per se, but the Devils don't seem to be handling him all that well, he hasn't progressed much in the last couple years, and he seems to have been passed by Eric Gelinas on the depth chart. I think there's a trade there if anyone cares to look.

As for the Coyotes, the popular choice is Brandon Gormley. Makes sense from a need standpoint, and he's a little closer to the NHL than most of the other guys who might be "available for the right price." And the Coyotes have had difficulty scoring for years.

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#32 Derzie
September 01 2014, 10:44PM
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Garbage invite. Trash if your pro-meathead.

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#33 McRib
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@Baalzamon

The funny thing to all of this is Brandon Gormley was drafted using our pick in the Olli trade was he not? I think Sven Baertschi has much more upside than any of the mentioned defenders no use trading him when value is so low.

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