FlamesNation Draft Board

 

 

The first round commences this evening and in anticipation I asked each writer here at FN to put together their own "draft board" or ranking of players they would like to see the team pick with the 13th overall choice (assuming nothing changes in the interim). Without further ado, here’s how things shake out:

Rank Pat Robert Kent Ryan
1 Bartschi McNeill Bartschi Scheifele
2 Klefbom Scheifele McNeill McNeill
3 Grimaldi Bartschi Phillips Jurco
4 Scheifele JT Miller Grimaldi Bealieu
5 McNeill Oleksiak Siemens Oleksiak

Robert on his choices: 

1. Mark McNeill: A physically mature right shooting center that could slide to the wing if need be is pretty much right in the sweet spot for Calgary. Unless the issues are severe, I always look at motivational questions about 18 year olds with a bit of a jaundiced eye, since, you know, they’re 18. If that’s the main beef people have with McNeill, he should be OK.
 
1A. Mark Scheifele: Another center with potentially good physical tools and likely a smidge more skill than McNeill. The two of them are pretty close in the eyes of most observers, with Scheifele having a small edge in the rankings. He’s more finesse than power at this age, but he’ll have a year or two at least before he tangles with men. I’d be fine with either guy
 
3. Sven Bartschi: Skilled winger that’s a bit small, and he’s been a 5’9" power player in the Dub. That won’t fly in the bigs, so he might have to re-invent himself somewhat to find an effective role as a pro. Nice enough player, though, and his compete level is good. He’s a notch below the first two guys just based on stature, because the skill levels are pretty analogous.
 
4. J.T. Miller: Power center that’s already fairly mature physically, but his skill level looks a bit below the top three. He still seems fairly solid with all that said, and his downside might not fall past third line forward, which isn’t optimal for the 13th pick, but it’s that sort of draft. I’d likely be about as content with Armia or a few other guys as Miller, to be honest.
 
5. Jameson Oleksiak: If the Flames are going to take a defender, which I wouldn’t necessarily advocate, they might as well take a player that could be a top two guy based on his physical gifts. The fact that he survived in the NCAA as teenager is a good sign, and since his skating seems at least acceptable for a big defender, there might be something there. If his top level is more Hal Gill than Tyler Myers, c’est la vie. Duncan Siemens would be OK as a defence pick as well, but I saw just enough of him this year on the tube to wonder what the fuss was about.

Ryan defenders his picks:

Mark Scheifele: Not too many overagers on a bad Barrie team, and he still put up 22-53-75 as a 17-year-old. He also led Canada in scoring at the U18s a while back, and if he’s around, I’d hope Calgary would jump on him. Big boy, too.

Mark McNeil: He had 80 points in 71 games, and he plays a very sound game at both ends of the ice, and "people" "say" he could "be" a latter-day Ryan Getzlaf.

Tomas Jurco: RW – So handsy. So skilled. Check YouTube.

Nathan Beaulieu: He’s a good defenseman and Calgary seems to be able to develop those, and those only, these days. He might be the best available at 13.

Jamieson Oleksiak:  Saw him a couple times this year playing for Northeastern and he’s big and occasionally drifts into meanness. He’ll get the chance to develop both that and his offensive game in college.

 
Pat’s thinking was explained in this post earlier.
 
Some interesting names. As I mentioned on Flamesnation radio yesterday, things open up a great deal after the top-tier of talent in this draft, so narrowing down the choices even at 13 was a difficult task. If we score each choice above according to his FN ranking, we get this consensus board:
 

Player Rank points
McNeill 14
Bartschi 13
Scheifele 11
Grimaldi 4
Klefbom 4
Phillips 3
Oleksiak 2
Miller 2
Beaulieu 2
Siemens 1

I assigned points in a "reverse order" (ie: first ranked gets five points, second gets four, etc) in order to get the consensus list. Unsurprisingly, Mark McNeill comes out on top, although Bartschi and Scheifele aren’t far behind. If the Flames indeed end up with two first rounders in the teens today, the "sceond tier" headed up by Grimaldi et al. would become the list for the second pick I think. Feel free to vote for who you think the Flames will take in the poll at right. Of course, if a high-ranked guy like Zibanejad or Murphy falls to Calgary, all bets are off.

Make sure to join us tonight for the FN live chat. We’ll get things going around 4:30pm MST.

  • mayhemsince1977

    Unless we trade up or down, I think McNeil is nearly a lock. I do beleive he said the Flames were his team in a interview somewhere.

    Worst day for productivity at work (thanks Buffalo). Today would be so much better not knowing about Reggie. I feel like I am at a bus stop at 3am waiting for a bus (could be a long wait).

  • Flamin Cannot's

    Here’s the thing. People are all against the small guy and think that it’ll be too tough to make it. As long as his head and work ethic are in the game he’ll do fine. If he has the skills to compete then that’s what matters MOST! Patrick kane is small, st louis is small, Theo flurey is small, there are several guys that are small that make a big difference to there team. I’m not saying it’ll be easy for him but it sounds like his attitude will make it entirely possible and i’d say probable that he’ll be a legit player in the NHL. take him. His talet sets him above the rest. who cares how small he is. I don’t see him as a huge risk and it would be a mistake to pass on him. I’d love to see us get buffalo’s pick and take him with the #16. His work ethic and skills will improve the players around him too. He’s my guy.

  • Flamin Cannot's

    My Draft Board(Asuming all of them are there at that pick).

    1.)Murphy
    2.)Bartschi
    3.)McNeil
    4.)Siemens
    5.)Either of Scheifele or Oleksiak I can’t pick at a solid 5 right now.

    I never really thought of Murphy before now, but there has been A LOT of talk lately of him falling, and if the Flames have their 13 and they have Buffalos 16 if the trade goes through they can probably get one McNeil or Siemens with that pick, though 2 Dmen with both first rounders will probably send a few people into fits. Though I’d be okay with it, our strength always has been defence and look at Vancouver, that defence carried that team through the playoffs, it wasn’t until they started going down with injury they really got exposed(the offense is entirely its own problem, but that D stiffled all three teams in the west and made Loungo look REALLY GOOD).

    Gonna be an interesting day thats for sure.

  • icedawg_42

    Kent I’ll direct this question at you because your list pretty much matches mine, here’s a scenario for you. If the Flames land the #16, and assuming Bartschi is gone at #13, do you take McNeill at #13? Then the REAL question becomes, do you stick with your chosen next best and take Phillips at #16…or do you go high risk/high reward (since you’ve already played safe at #13) and take Grimaldi as opposed to Phillips? – that’s what I think I’d do.

  • the-wolf

    TAKE GRIMALDI!

    Fact of the matter is that he has a higher ceiling than McNeill or anyone else Calgary has a shot at.

    He’s a special player and those types of guys don’t come around very often.

    His size is of no concern to me and nor should it be to anyone who is a Flames fan considering one of our best ever players was also that size – albeit different styles.

    But the strength, work ethic, training,compete and talent are all there.

    To me it’s a chance for a home run vs. a #2 center.

  • Not sure how I can respect twolinepass’ draft board when he complained about the poor treatment of the Thrash staff when True North moved them, or how the Jets did not mention the Thrashers illustrious history on their website. And using ‘Nationalism’ as the reason why the Winnipeg team isn’t preserving the pathetic past of the Thrashers? Just strikes me as lazy sensationalism. Really seems like the guy leans on his emotions and his own preconceived biases too heavily instead of making his decisions based on fact. Gotta get this guy off The Nation, I’d rather see some pro-Canadian analysis instead of the opinions of some confused, self-loathing Bostonian.

  • wattree

    If they do ship Reg, do any of you think a focus on D needs to be considered? I personally hope they stick to the “best player available” speech Feaster gave. I believe it’s better to address filling a hole with a FA or a trade at the time then try to fill a hole 2 years from now with a draftee. Draft the best and build around them.