Flames to Sign David Eddy

 

 

According to Tim Wharnsby of CBC sports, the Flames are close to signing David Eddy, an unsigned 22-year old college winger. Eddy has played for St. Cloud State for three seasons, this year scoring a career high 25-points in 39 games. Standing at just 5’11" and weighing around 170 pounds, probably one of the reasons he was never drafted is lackluster size.

Like John Gaudreau, Eddy is a graduate of the USHL where he made the all-rookie team in 2008-09. He never made quite the same splash in college as the tiny Flames draft pick, however, so although he’s bigger than Johhny G, Eddy’s ceiling is probably substantially lower.

Flames were linked to other college free agents JW Brown and Dan DeKeyser by Roger Millions recently, so it sounds like the organization is getting aggressive about combing through the ranks of undrafted kids in the NCAA.

Although that’s not a route which typically bears fruit in terms of future difference makers, it’s a worthwhile method to expand your prospect base without spending draft picks in June. One thing that has become obvious to me over the years is predicting kid’s futures is more or less a lottery – so gathering more "tickets" improves your chances of getting a winner.

This is essentially how Dale Tallon built the Hawks through the draft – not via pinpoint, savvy selections, but by collecting as many picks as possible and shotgunning things. Chicago had 48 picks between 2004-2006, amongst them were Keith Seabrook, Dustin Byfuglien, Troy Brouwer, Cam barker, Bryan Bickell, Jake Dowell, Niklas Hjalmarsson, MIke Blunden, Jack Skille and Jonathan Toews. Tallon has started doing the same thing in Florida since he arrived – the Panthers had 13 picks during his first summer there and another 10 last June (23 total in just two drafts).

The Flames have infamously gone the other direction over the last seven years or so, spending picks to shore up the big club’s immediate needs. In isolation it’s actually a defensible strategy because lone picks outside of, say, the top 10 to 15 aren’t worth a whole lot by themselves. The effect, however, can be a cumulative one and I maintain one of the reasons the Flames draft record is so dismal over the last decade or so is the club has had so few arrows in the quiver come each draft day.

Of course, gathering more picks is difficult, absent selling off big league assets (which the team is still uninterested in), so in the mean time, trawling for free agent prospects is a decent enough facsimile.

UPDATE – Flames confirm the signing. Word is it’s a two-year deal. Apparently he has already joined the Abbotsford Heat on a pro try-out agreement and the new contract will start next season.

    • It’s unconfirmed as of yet, so no details on the contract terms.

      As for the 50-contract limit, I think it only applies to guys who active pros and excludes college and junior guys until they make the leap. I know that’s true of junior guys at least.

      • jgl

        I know that the junior players have their contracts ‘slide’ so they don’t count against the 50 contracts. How about players in Europe. Both Joni Ortio and Stefan Meyer are in Europe now, so is it possible that they don’t count? I only bring this up since this was given as the reason that the Flames could not wave Karlsson – if another team claimed him, the Flames would not have the minimum 3 goalies contracted.

        Another possibility is that they managed to sign him for next year and his contract don’t kick in this year.

          • jgl

            I was reading something on Calgarypuck a while ago explaining it. I can’t remember exactly how that it worked, but it is essentially an agreement that goes into affect July 1. The downside with this would be that it would not necessarily be as attractive to the player as they would not be able to burn the first year of their ELC.

  • Bean-counting cowboy

    Given poor organizational depth down the right side, Eddy will likely be given a good opportunity in camp next season if Stempniak, Moss, and Comeau arent resigned.

  • I can’t remember in which post it was in, but someone already explained it. Philly is also going after the same guys we are and they are at 50 contracts as well. You can sign them to a contract now, but it doesn’t “Start” till July 1st of this year, as long as you have contracts coming off the books that is and we have a lot of them, so we have room to sign guys. And to get them playing pro-hockey right away they sign PTO’s with your AHL team or an AHL team because they are not technically signed to an NHL team they can sign AHL PTO’s.

    So he will most likely be signed sooner rather than later unless another team swoops in at the 11th hour. But like you said Kent, sometimes its better to throw a lot of shit at the wall and hope it all sticks rather than having nothing to throw at all.

    Since there is not much to go on, I just go by his HockeyDB stats, and this year is acctualy a little worse than last year(based on PPG). He doesn’t look like the offensive dynamo that Gaudreau is, but I think Eddy could still be good depth.

  • What the hell, my comments refuse to post?!?! Ah well type it all out again.

    So we can sign him to a contract this year right now, however the contract doesn’t kick in till July 1st 2012. It was explained in a previous FN article that someone else commented in. The Flyers are also after the same two free agents that we are(not Eddy), and they are up against 50 contracts as well. However you can sign these guys to a SPC however it will not start till July 1st, that is if you have room July 1st with enough contracts coming off the books(we have a bunch of useless AHL/ECHL contracts expiring). And since the Contract for the Flames doesn’t kick in till July 1st we can sign him(or another AHL team) to a PTO so he can play in Abby for the remainder of the year.

    Gotta agree with your assesment up there Kent. It’s better to throw a lot of shit against the wall and hope it all sticks than not have enough to throw and nothing sticks. I’d rather try a college UFA than re-sign a Grantham or MacMillian or something like that.

    Looking at his College Numbers nothing really stands out. His USHL numbers a really nice, and his second last College season he actually had a better PPG pace than this year, but was injured. However I’m willing to give him a try, it never hurts to move on from some of Daryls crappy prospects and try some new territory.

  • What the hell, my comments refuse to post?!?! Ah well type it all out again.

    So we can sign him to a contract this year right now, however the contract doesn’t kick in till July 1st 2012. It was explained in a previous FN article that someone else commented in. The Flyers are also after the same two free agents that we are(not Eddy), and they are up against 50 contracts as well. However you can sign these guys to a SPC however it will not start till July 1st, that is if you have room July 1st with enough contracts coming off the books(we have a bunch of useless AHL/ECHL contracts expiring). And since the Contract for the Flames doesn’t kick in till July 1st we can sign him(or another AHL team) to a PTO so he can play in Abby for the remainder of the year.

    Gotta agree with your assesment up there Kent. It’s better to throw a lot of crap against the wall and hope it all sticks than not have enough to throw and nothing sticks. I’d rather try a college UFA than re-sign a Grantham or MacMillian or something like that.

    Looking at his College Numbers nothing really stands out. His USHL numbers a really nice, and his second last College season he actually had a better PPG pace than this year, but was injured. However I’m willing to give him a try, it never hurts to move on from some of Daryls crappy prospects and try some new territory.

      • REALLY!?!! Wow, I never would have thought of that, considering that injuries is usually the reason you miss games. So not only was this guy not drafted he might be a dumbass, wow, ugh, maybe he just got the PTO and not a full contract???

        • everton fc

          Well… apparently he was diagnosed with ADD and he says his grades got better after getting meds for it (had to plum the depths of google for that bit). Regardless, I wouldn’t call someone a dumbass for having a single rough semester. He maintained the requisite GPA over his last year and a half at anyrate.

          I dunno, I haven’t seen any scouting reports or eyes on evals so I’m not going to jump to any conclusions about him just yet.

          • MC Hockey

            If it was a medical reason and something that somehow he went all of grade school and high school with and just finally got diagnosed then I apologize. But really, NCAA athletes hardly have the hardest courses, most of the courses are a joke and are set up so they don’t have to try at all(I’m speaking mostly about NCAA BB AND NCAA FB, but I doubt Hockey is that far behind). If he was able to maintain his average that’s great.

            @Everton FC, yeah Howse has really turned his game around post all star break. If Ward is really able to turn Howse into at the least an effictive AHLer we need to sign Ward to a lifetime contract for the Heat cause he’s obviously a miracle worker.

          • MC Hockey

            Let’s take it easy on the guy. He could have gone the Canadian junior route, but it looks like he tried to use hockey to get him an education he couldn’t get otherwise. I really respect that.

            Learning disabilities are tough. If he had to work that hard on the side to get by in school, maybe shifting his focus entirely to hockey may mean we have a wildcard on our hands and his development can accelerate.

  • someone call feaster. there is a kid at lake superior state university. kyle jean, big strong fast with very good offensive upside. 6 foot three 215 winger. london knights took alot at the kid a couple of years ago, went undrafted in the ohl but played in american junios ranks as well as the midwest elite league midget loop.

  • Eddy has similar college numbers to David Moss. Perhaps the Flames are looking for a younger faster model.

    I don’t disagree with the move. Maybe you get a third line winger that scores the odd goal.

    I’ve read a few articles and it sounds like he brings a lot of energy and board play as well. Could be a good fit.

    Maybe a Mosser direct replacement.

  • T&A4Flames

    It seems to me that Eddy has a low offensive ceiling from I’m hearing. If that is the case, should the Flames not be concentrating more on guys with more offesive potential?

    It seems there are better options in NCAA such as Spencer Abbott, Brian Flynn & Jeremy Welsh (who is also good in the face off circle, something we REALLY need). Not to mention JT Brown. If Eddy is just another potential 3rd liner, we have enough of those types of players.

    At least, it seems, that Feaster is trying to be proactive. Maybe there are others in semi-serious discussions that we don’t know about.

  • everton fc

    I can’t believe people see this kid remotely making the roster here next year. He’s a project. He’s small. He may be a grinder, like Bouma, but much smaller.

    We need size. But this kid may add the depth on the farm. In that sense, why not offer him a PTO. Bit to compare him w/Moss… Not to mention Stempniak… Comeau… A bit of a stretch. Like saying Jessiman might add to our depth on the right side. Or Rheault. Or Estoclet. All are producing on the farm, and Jessiman is huge… But none should be compared to anyone we currently have on the right-side. In fact, all three may be better than Eddy, ultimately.

    Incidentally, seems Howse is starting to produce a little. Two-goal night vs. Stars. Ward may resurrect this kids career. He seems a decent kid. Let’s hope Ward can turn him into a bonifide prospect, albeit from the left-side!

  • everton fc

    Depth can’t hurt. Ever.

    He’s originally from California. Actually stopped playing hockey due to high costs in 7th & 8th grade. Then moved to Minnesota.

    Saw an interview he did, on Youtube. Seems your typical American kid. Again, depth can’t hurt. No risk here.

  • MC Hockey

    Nice to see the Feaster regime trying a different route that is less “tapped” (similar to signing older AHL veterans las summer) to find prospects but Craig Conroy talked about it on the Fan and now we all know about it. As a guy in a competitive business, to me this means the organization is letting other teams know their strategies so I wonder if more secretiveness would be better for the Flames organization even though it would not be as good for fans and bloggers! And personally I think the idea of finding more skill is a top priority versus more “character” players….seems rather Dutterish to me!

  • MC Hockey

    Nice to see the Feaster regime trying a different route that is less “tapped” (similar to signing older AHL veterans las summer) to find prospects but Craig Conroy talked about it on the Fan and now we all know about it. As a guy in a competitive business, to me this means the organization is letting other teams know their strategies so I wonder if more secretiveness would be better for the Flames organization even though it would not be as good for fans and bloggers! And personally I think the idea of finding more skill is a top priority versus more “character” players….seems rather Dutterish to me!

  • everton fc

    looks like The Feast is trying to create Toronto West. Rarely do these players work out. Kent says gather many tickets like Tallon did, only problem he did it with the draft. Only GM who does this regularly is Burke. He did it with the same intent to “speed up the restocking process”. How has that worked? Sure its good to get some of these guys but when you dont have a good track record of scouting to begin with should u really be going there? If the UFA NCAA is the way to go, why dont more teams go that way?

    • MC Hockey

      “How has that worked?”

      For Burke? Pretty well actually…

      Stalberg: Traded (along with others) to acquire an asset he wanted. NHL Reguler, on pace for 20G season.

      Bozak: Skilled two-way center on pace for another 15G season. NHL Reguler.

      The only one of his three big NCAA guys that completely whiffed (Did not become an NHL reguler or function as a moveable asset) was Hanson. Two out of three ain’t bad.

  • MC Hockey

    Oh no, by no means do I think he likely had a tough course load… he was a “general studies” major afterall, I didn’t know a single person who was general studies after their freshman year, but I mean… it’s still not right to call him maybe a dumbass. I mean we’re talking about him joining a profession where I wager most of his co-workers top out at a High School diploma.