Flames Picks Round 5-7

 

 

Ryan Culkin, D – 124th overall

Culkin is a defender from the Quebec Ramparts of QMJHL. He’s the third defenseman picked by the Flames in this draft, making Jankowski the only forward chosen in the top-125 by Calgary. Culkin is a 6’1", 175 pound blueliner who scored 6 goals and 25 points in 60 games. Like many other Flames picks in this draft, he’s described as a player with good hockey sense. Boucher scouting has an in-depth one game scout report and even summary on Culkin here.

 Coda Gordon, LW – 165 overall

Flames go back to their WHL roots with the Gordon pick. A winger with the Swift Current Broncos, Gordon scored 30 goals and 53 points in 66 games, good for second on the team. He’s described as a forward who has a great shot and good physical play, but below average skating.

Matthew Deblouw, C – 186 overall

The Flames rounded things out with a 6′, 185 pound center out of the UHSL, Deblouw put up 11 goals and 34 points for Muskegan. He was the 51st ranked NA skater by Central scouting at the end of the year.

Thus concludes the Flames 2012 entry draft. Calgary went heavy on defenders and players from Quebec and United States leagues/development systems, which is a big departure from previous habits under the former regime. Jankowski was the Flames lone high reward type choice in this draft, while the rest of the choices were defensible, but far more middle of the road.

It’s apparent the Flames think there is some value in scouting Quebec and relatively minor feeder leagues like the USHL right now. We’ll see if their intuition proves correct. 

  • supra steve

    @Rex

    I disagree with Jankowski being available at 42 when the Flames next picked, between Wisebrod and Button both saying that they had to take him at 21 and still were not entirely comfortable taking the risk from 14 to 21 and other reports on Sportsnet that a lot of people believe that he would have been long gone before 42.

    And is it a risk? sure it’s a bit of a gamble, but what prospect isn’t, the leafs took a gamble on a kid coming off an ACL injury and hoping he can come back 100% from that, did Buffalo gamble on Grigorenko a little? Sure, the kid is apparently not 100% motivated. Everyone takes a calculated risk now and then. The Flames risk may be a little bigger, however their reward may be the biggest of the bunch.

    As for all their eggs in one basket, I think they put all the Forward eggs in one basket, the other two forwards they got are nice complimentary peices, however they may never achieve above 3rd line status. The defenders they all choose however I think are are good bets as well. Sieloff has all the tools minus offense and the other two defenders remind me so much of Brodie that I am very hopefull, even if its just the three defenders that all become NHLers, thats more than fine, as long as you can turn kids into NHLers you are doing good.

    As for Feasters poor assest management, he’s tried to do the best with the piss poor assests he was handed, quite frankly with what he was left with, he’s doing a great job with what assests he has. Could he have done a bit better with a few trades, certainly, however there were things beyond his control that he had to deal with, NMC/NTCs and the like, albotross contracts no one wants and so forth.

  • supra steve

    Rex

    What would YOU rather have, a 2nd round draft pick (#43) or $2,000,000.00? I guess Feaster decided to keep the cash. Seems to me the Flames were going to have to pay Kotalik, one way or the other. So, what is the actual cash value of that 2nd round pick? Seems it is approximately $2 million.

    That whole trade was very disapointing at the time. After hearing the speculation that we would probably be getting Buffalo’s 1st (#16), along with roster player(s). Looking back, it doesn’t sting quite so bad. It was certainly an interesting trade, one that would not have happened pre-cap.

  • RexLibris

    @steve

    Small, non-sequential, unmarked bills please.

    😉

    Seriously, what I think Feaster ought to have done (and yes, I know this is a conceited thing to do at times) was to focus: if you want to move Regehr, then move Regehr. If you want (need) to move Kotalik, then move Kotalik.

    Why couldn’t he have leveraged Regehr’s value against the Kotalik contract? It would have meant taking less from Buffalo in return, but retaining more of the franchise’s internal assets (picks).

    Breaking down the trade it looks almost like Feaster started crafting a deal and it just grew and grew until he was sending out good money (picks) after bad.

    I guess much of my criticism over that (and by extension the Cammalleri trade) comes from my own opinion on the state of the team. Feaster and his team believe that the Flames are one or two pieces away and he wanted to clear the cap space in order to sign Richards.

    In my estimation the Flames are indeed only two players away, but from an entirely different outcome than the one Feaster imagines.

    Based on that, Feaster would be of the opinion that a 2nd round pick is a small price to pay for the cap space needed to sign Richards. Whereas, a team that has the kinds of holes that the Flames do, and in the state that I believe it to be, needs those picks much more than cap space for whale hunting.

    • RexLibris

      no one argues that losing those 2nd round picks doesn’t sting. It does. But what did the Flames get out of those deals? In the Regehr trade, they lost the pick and an aging vet for a (surprisingly) superior, younger defenseman. Not the best trade in the world, but the Flames DID get some value. At the draft, they managed to get a (slightly) better 2nd round pick… and they still got their guy in the 1st round, even though they traded down.

      As for the Cammalleri trade, you can (could) break it down into 3 components: Cammalleri/Bourque (clear win for Flames–Cammy is also a year younger than Bourque); 5th round/Holland (probably a win for the Habs, although the Flames managed to get a decent player with that pick. And Holland was nabbed in the 7th round); Ramo/2nd round (Ramo has been putting up some great numbers in the KHL the last 2 years. He’s relatively young, but may be a starter in the NHL. It’s nowhere close to a sure thing, but what do you usually expect to get out of a 2nd round pick? It’s a wash (for now)).