Is Jay Bouwmeester next?

 

 

Blackhawks vs Calgary Flames 12/5/10

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 Hot on the heels of the Iginla trade is news that Jay Bouwmeester has also been approached by Flames management about a potential deal. As reported by Roger Millions:

 

Defenders are always hot commodities around deadline time, especially guys who can face tough competition and eat up a lot of minutes. Those kinds of players are useful and rare, so it’s no suprise a number of teams are interested in Bouwmeester. Particularly since he’s having his best run of offense in Flames colors since he came to Calgary.

That said, making a quality deal for him will be difficult for the Flames. He’s signed for one more season, so there’s absolutely no reason to rush to move him this year. In addition, his sizable cap hit ($6.68 million) could prove to be a significant impediment given the cap ceiling is set to drop to about $64 million next season. It’s possible the Flames would need to eat a portion of deal or take a chunk of money back to make a swap work. That’s not ideal, unless the org really likes the player/contract coming back.

Shopping Bouwmeester to get a feel for his market value is sensible. It’s doubtful he’ll stick around once his contract expires since the Flames are unlikely to be contenders at that point (and the big guy has never seen the post-season, let alone had a real chance to compete for the grail). That said, unless someone comes along with a really top-notch package, Calgary could stand to wait and shop JayBo again at the deadline in 2014.

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  • RKD

    Bouwmeester, Cammalleri, Stajan, Jackman, Sarich, and Babchuck need to be moved in the next six days. Take back salary for Bouwmeester and Cammalleri to make the deals happen for the best returns. Trade Stajan because now is the high point of his value and you may never get more for him. Jackman, Sarich, and Babchuck are excellent late round draft capital that can be used in packages for young players or higher draft picks.

  • jeremywilhelm

    The new CBA allows them to eat some of Bouwmeester’s salary next year right? If they can get picks and prospects, wouldn’t they be further ahead to trade him now? Then the picks and prospects will be one year closer to playing in the NHL than if they wait until next year at the deadline…

  • Stockley

    So this is how it feels to be an Oilers fan? Minus the four extra cups they won in Edmonton of course. I don’t like it.

    So what is there to look forward to? Drafts? We’ll have a shot at Sam Reinhart after next season. Maybe if they remain really inept they can draft Connor McDavid?

      • Parallex

        Yes… well kinda. Reinhart is the consensus best forward although Ekblad might edge him for a team wanting a defenseman.

        I really don’t see Nylander usurping Reinhart.

        I would be so stoked to get Sam Reinhart.

  • Wouldn’t mind seeing J Bo gone. He’s a great player, but as we look to the future, his return package could potentially bring some great players/prospects/picks to the team.

    I have no problem taking some $ back in the form of a serviceable (I use that word lightly) NHLer…..as long as we are getting some good pieces to stock the cupboard with.

  • icedawg_42

    @ woods

    I really agree with your first post. I think now is the time to move J-bo, without a doubt. I think we can afford, in both his case and Cammy’s, to eat some salary next year, as opposed to take a lesser prospect in return.

    The Iggy return was certainly not what I wanted. I have always said we need better players, not more players. One higher rated prospect would have made me feel better, as opposed to two unknowns… That said, it is a much-needed start.

    J-bo to Detroit, Kipper to Toronto, Cammy to Boston (if Chiarelli will speak to us anymore), Cervenka to Dallas, and the obvious players (Sarich, Babchuk, Butler, Smith) moved wherever. Obviously we can’t trade them all, but I’d like to see 1/2 dozen shipped out.

    I posted my thoughts about Iggy in the days leading up to his trade. I wish him and his family all the best. Go get yourself the cup, and when you take that first sip, understand that there will be thousands of Albertan’s raising their glasses with you, to you, for you.

    • everton fc

      I’ll be pulling for the Pens, in the playoffs.

      Watched Iggy’s press conference. He leaves a class act. Great character all the way. A good role model, for the kids.

      • Of course…..He’s an Edmonton boy….what else would you expect.

        And yes….he does deserve a cup….and chances are pretty good he’ll be hoisting it this spring……kinda like Raymond Bourque did a few years back.

        What’s equally interesting is, where will he play in 2014??

        Maybe he comes home to Edmonton and wins a second cup….and a third…..and takes his rightful place in hockey history!!!

        THE RIVALRY IS STILL ALIVE!

  • SmellOfVictory

    According to MacKenzie and Hall, JBo’s the guy with the most value on the Flames (including the ex-captain), even with his fat contract. I absolutely want to see him go if he can get the kind of return it sounds like he may garner. That and Iginla would be enough for a jump start to the rebuild, in my opinion (and all the other flotsam like Babchuk could stay/go/jump off a cliff).

  • Franko J

    If Bouwmeester is being shopped to Detroit:

    To Detroit: Bouwmeester, Stajan, Jackman, Seiloff.

    To Calgary: Brenden Smith, Calle Jarnkrok, 2nd and 6th picks.

  • BobB

    I may be the only one saying this,

    but please keep Jay Bouwmeester.

    Or, at the very least trade Cammy, Tanguay, Gio or Stajan all before Jay.

    (unless of course the offer is absurdly favorable for the team)

  • Franko J

    J-Bo to the Oilers for Paarjarvi, Jones, a 1st in 2014, a 2nd in 2013.

    No way oilers move a 1st this year, but they have excess skilled forwards, need a minute eating dman…

    • Franko J

      All trolling aside…..

      Oilers seem very interested in J-Bo…..Players they seem willing to move include Hemsky, Whitney, maybe Smid (surprisingly), and definitely 2nd rounders in 2013 and a first rounder in 2014.

      At least that’s my take.

    • Fantheoilman

      PRV jones and a 2nd sounds right. PRV was a first and we would still take on salary. This is a workable trade idea. Unfortunately neither one of our gms are very intelligent.

  • Franko J

    @ dotfras

    Just throwing it out there. No different from all the Iginla banter and speculation.

    Hey I would trade Bouwmeester straight up for Smith.
    Sorry from day one but I have not liked Bouwmeester. Just like Regher, the sooner they are off this team the better. With him in this team has this team been better?
    Right now which team is the 29th in the league in goals for. Which defenseman plays the most minutes for this team?

    No leadership ability and very soft. Sure he can skate but that is the only asset he has. If the team can move him, they will be better off.

  • Franko J

    The Flames can afford to be patient with Bouwmeester. Not so much because they could trade him next year at the deadline, but they have the option of getting good value trading him at the draft. They didn’t have that option with Iginla.

  • Franko J

    Funny how it works fans overestimate the return for one of their players.

    You want J-Bo traded because you don’t think he is that good, but the return you want makes him an All-Star.

    Personally I think he is a very good Dman , plays against the best comp.
    However he is not going to score many points.

    Next season he will be 30 yrs old and his greatest asset is his skating ability. Which is the first thing to slip when you get older.

    Dont’t forget Feaster is the GM so really what will be the return?

  • I see J Bo netting a Roster Player ($), Solid Prospect, & 1 or 2nd Round Pick in 2013.

    If the Flames & trading partner could agree on the Flames eating a portion of the money, remove roster player & add a secondary pick/prospect.

    I think that’s a fair return.

  • Do not make the same mistake twice and trade JBo as a rental. Woods an shutout are right. Eat cap space and move him. Jarnkrok, a lower prospect like Oulette and a first. That’s fair value for a 5M 29 year old 30 min/night D man.

  • RKD

    Well if Kipper says he will refuse to report to any team traded to then I think Jay-Bo will be the next to go. Detroit is probably the frontrunner as they have not filled Lidstrom’s spot. While Jay-Bo is no Nick Lidstrom, he can give Det 25 mins a night. The second team I see making a pitch are the St. Louis Blues they want a guy with a left handed shot to play with Pietrangelo.

  • RKD

    Bouwmeester should net us a Roster player, two propsects and a first. he is still a top teir defencemen, and we will easily get that should we eat part of next years salary, which we really should.

    Think about it, next year we are not going for it, we will re-tool and play out a season of us losing, there is no reason we can’t use the new CBA to our advantage. There is no way we are a cap team next year, so use 2-3 million of it on Bouwmeester and get a killer return.

  • RKD

    Would you consider Peckham, Hordichuck and Eager for Bowmeister, because it sure looks like you are going into tear-down mode and will need to be playing a toughnosed style of hockey to keep the fans interested while you re-tool, it looks like the Flames are going to follow history like the Oilers are, the Flames are about to get really tough and nasty to play against because they have to to survive with us next door.

    Peckham is young and tough as nails, Hordichuck speaks for himself he is a hammer,and ben Eager is an anomoly that if used right might get you 20 or 30 goals in the right system and he is one heavy fast train out there.

    This just seems like a nice value for value trade. It takes both teams in a balanced postitive evolutionary direction and really Bowmeister deserves a chance to take a run with a team like the Oilers, he has surely paid his dues the guy is a machine, and on that note Peckham has evolved a simple basic tough game and has earned the right to play but we cant fit him in , Hordichucks valus is obvious he still has value in protecting the kids you will need to start funnelling in soon and Ben Eager needs a fresh start where he is relied upon enough to feel the need to self-police his own off-ice mainrenance.

    • RKD

      That surely cracks the top 3 in the worst trade proposals I’ve ever seen. Maybe higher. Trade our best defenseman for three players who wouldn’t even crack the Flames’ roster? Yeah. Great idea.

      Yeah Hordichuk’s value is obvious all right. Nothing. Seriously, I wouldn’t even take that return for Anton Babchuk. And I’d take practically anything for Babchuk.