Flames sign captain Mark Giordano to 6-year, $40.5 million contract extension

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The Calgary Flames have signed 31-year-old defenseman and captain Mark Giordano to a six-year contract extension the club announced on Tuesday. The deal is worth a reported $40.5 million overall, and carries an annual average value of $6.75 million.

Giordano – who turns 32 prior to the beginning of this upcoming season – is entering the final year of his current five-year, $20.1 million contract, so obviously this new deal represents a significant and well earned raise. It’s also a pretty big win for Flames management, considering that Giordano’s camp reportedly was looking for an eight-year deal worth more than $70 million.

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While the contract arguably comes in below market value, it’s still a risky proposition for the Flames. Giordano, after all, won’t suit up for his first regular season game under his new contract until he’s 33-years-old, and he’ll be taking up $6.75 million in cap space at the age of 39 – during a season in which all of Calgary’s projectable, elite core (Sam Bennett, Sean Monahan, Johnny Gaudreau) will be getting paid at unrestricted free agent rates. 

It seems highly unlikely that Giordano will be the player he is today during the latter stages of the contract. 

Obviously the injury issue is another concern. Though Giordano has mostly been extraordinarily durable in his career, he hasn’t played a full 82 game season since the 2010-11 campaign. Even for a savvy, puck-moving defender like Giordano, it can become difficult to stay healthy when playing a physically demanding position into your mid- to late- 30s. 

Risks are part and parcel with retaining elite talent in their unrestricted free agent seasons, but they’re particularly pronounced for Giordano because of his odd career path. This is a player who wasn’t really elite until he turned 29, but based on what he’s done over the past two seasons, is easily a top-10 defender in the game. 

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We’ll have to see how this plays out over the subsequent seven years, but what’s clear today is that this is a big ticket deal for a player outside of his traditional prime years. Even in spite of the favourable cap hit it’s a tough deal for a team that’s likely to be committing serious chunks of change and cap space to a small group of key, star-quality forwards in the coming years. It’s also a significant hometown discount on Giordano’s part, which goes a long way towards minimizing that risk. 

When you’re hot, you’re hot. And there’s no doubting that this summer Flames management has been hot.


  • RedMan

    anymore details?? is there a No move/trade clause???

    Gio is elite, but more than that he is also the intangibles master, a locker room ninja,

    name one D-core better than the Flames, and I will tip my hat to you

    • Derzie

      New York Rangers:
      Marc Staal, Ryan McDonagh, Keith Yandle, Dan Girardi.

      Preds:
      Shea Weber, Roman Josi, Seth Jones, Ryan Ellis.

      LA Kings:
      Drew Doughty, Slava Voynov, Christian Erhoff, Jake Muzzin, Alec Martinez.

      Wild:
      Ryan Suter, Jonas Brodin, Jared Spurgeon, Mathew Dumba.

      Blues:
      Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Bouwmester, Gunnerson.

      Islanders:
      Boychuck, Leddy, Harmonic, Hickney.

      Chicago: Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Van Reimsdyk, Rundblad.

      Detroit:
      Green, Kronwall, Dekyser, Kindl, Ericsson.

      Tampa Bay:
      Carle, Garrison, Coburn, Stralman, Headman

      And basically the entire back end of the ducks.

      I’m not disputing Calgary has one of the best in the league. But to say there are non better is laughable. You need at least one Norris candidate / winner in your line up to be considered best in the league. I would say at the very least, Chicago, LA, Ducks, St. Louis and New York have better D. Not to mention after you get past the D on some of those teams, you’re looking at Anderson, Quick, Ludqvuist, Crawford, and whoever St Louise has in net. So, Vezina and Norris back ends.

      Even still, it’s an impressive group on good to great contracts.

      • RedMan

        first of all, you need to quit “liking” your own posts,

        second, you need to comment under one name… quit trolling with so many different names

        third, where is it written that the best defense isn’t the best if it hast had a norris winner? (besides, last year was Gio’s Norris, if he wasn’t injured)

        Finally, nice list… where’s the stats or data to back which is better?

        • imthedude63

          Liking your own posts is a STAPLE to internet trolling and I will not change. Not sure about the multiple names thing though. Occasionally another Will pops up on ON but if anything I’m a way bigger troll than him. I would say it’s pretty common sense that a team with the best defenceman in the league would only further qualify that group as the best in the league. It’s not a must have, but it certainly helps the argument.

          That’s fine to say he would have won it, but he didn’t, so he didn’t. Part of being the best is also staying healthy for the entire year. He didn’t so he isn’t. He wasn’t even nominated which tells me while very good, Gio was not in the conversation of Elite.

          As for stats and stuff. Yes, you have me there. I did not spend all day pouring through stats sheets and writing an essay to back up my point. Merely an opinion from someone who watches a lot of hockey, and plays a lot of fantasy so knows how these guys do points wise and plus minus, ect.

          But end of the day, like I said, Calgary has a very good defence, maybe even one of the best in the league, but to say it is the unequivocal absolute best… weeelll?

      • Reidja

        True, I would put NYR and the Blues above the Flames D. Gio is absolutely Norris caliber and remember we have the guy who finished #4 in scoring last year as our 5th defenseman.

        • RedMan

          Again, I can’t really deny the strength of the Flame’s back end, but to say there’s no better core in the league is a bit of an overstatement. It’s not uprising Wideman did so well in scoring as that’s always been his bag, only in Calgary he doesn’t have to do it on the top line.

      • Parallex

        Vezina? IMO The only one of the guys you mentioned that I think are legit Vezina/Elite Goalie level is Ludqvuist.

        The point about the D is true though. Calgary has a very good d-core but it’s not head and shoulders above the rest of the league (man… the league has a lot of steller D right now).

        • DoubleDIon

          Anderson did have some injury but make no mistake, his numbers were insane this last year. Quick and Lundqvuist have both won the Vezina as well as other hardware. I think Quick even won the Heart one year. Crawford, I will give you might not be Vezina worthy, but he’s underrated much like every Detroit goalie has been for the last decade. As for St. Louise. Ya, not great. They did have Halak for a bit who was nominated that year he stood on his head for Montreal, and alsohad an amazing year this year for the Islanders. But ya, their current tandem is not really in the same company as the others.

          • RedMan

            My mistake, was it Brown that won the heart for LA that year? They both look like scruffy homeless people when they get their playoff beards. Also, not the heart, he won the Con Smyth, my mistake. And you’re right he’s never won the Vezina but he’s been as close as second, and in the ballot pretty much for the last five years.

        • piscera.infada

          Also, to your point about there being really good D in the league right now. As I was making this list, I was thinking the exact same thing. There is no one or two completely stacked teams, there’s like 7 or 8. As an Oiler fan, it makes me sad to see this list and think how far our current prospects will have to go in order to enter this conversation.

      • BurningSensation

        New York Rangers: Marc Staal, Ryan McDonagh, Keith Yandle, Dan Girardi.

        – Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, Wideman, Russell is better. Hamilton crushes Yandle.

        Preds: Shea Weber, Roman Josi, Seth Jones, Ryan Ellis.

        – Granted. IMO this set of 4D is the class of the league.

        LA Kings: Drew Doughty, Slava Voynov, Christian Erhoff, Jake Muzzin, Alec Martinez.

        – On paper these guys should be #1. Erhoff is excellent, but very fragile, no way he plays 82 games. And then there is Voynov. On paper I want any D corps that starts with ‘Doughty’ and has this much talent, but in truth I prefer the Flames.

        Wild: Ryan Suter, Jonas Brodin, Jared Spurgeon, Mathew Dumba.

        – Uh, no. I like Gio better than Suter, Brodie way better than Brodin (who I think is a stud), and Hamilton destroys Spurgeon.

        Blues: Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Bouwmester, Gunnerson.

        – That’s a steep drop to Gunnarsson. Otherwise I would agree, the Blues D should be elite.

        Islanders: Boychuck, Leddy, Harmonic, Hickney.

        – Now you are just being silly.

        Chicago: Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Van Reimsdyk, Rundblad.

        – Calgary’s is better. Gio vs Keith is more or less a saw-off (though Keith’s contract is a gift from heaven for Chicago), Seabrook vs Brodie is a slight favourite to Chicago, but Hamilton vs Hjlamarsson is a blow out.

        Detroit: Green, Kronwall, Dekyser, Kindl, Ericsson.

        – Not a chance.

        Tampa Bay: Carle, Garrison, Coburn, Stralman, Headman

        – Hedman is a monster, but after that….Brodie and co. are to a man better.

        • BurningSensation

          Okay, I take it all back, I suppose Flames fans can’t have a frank discussion about hockey. In no world is Duncan Kieth and Gio a “saw off”. Let’s see, Keith has three stanley cups, he has two Olympic Gold Medals, a Con Smyth and a Norris. Gio has a bunch of flames fans saying if he didn’t get injured he would have won something. Only he did get injured, and didn’t win anything. If Nuge didn’t get injured he would have won the Calder, only he did, and then he didn’t, so it means jack squat.

          In 9 season Giordano has 245 points in 510 games. In ten seasons, Keith has 415 points in 766 games. So .54 points per game for Kieth vs .48 for Gio. By every metric they have in Hockey, Keith is a better defenceman. Seabrook has a gold medal and three stanley cups and has 318 points in his career. In the last 4 season Gio has slightly more points in 137 to Seabrooks 124. So maybe, maybe that’s a “saw off”. I suppose I’ll concede that Hamilton looks better the Hjalmersson, but I won’t call it a blow out by any stretch because Hjalmersson because guess what, he’s got three cups more than Hamilton.

          As for the rest, you’re off your rocker. Yandle has been top five in defensive scoring for like ever. The guy got 52 points last year alone. He is not better, and the Flames do not have a better defensive core than New York or LA or St. Louis or Chicago. But thanks for the wacky opinions based on no facts.

          • BurningSensation

            Lets talk facts then. Compare the Corgis of Keith, Seabrook, etc, with Gio and Brodie. I’ll save you the time, ALL advanced metrics have the last two seasons of Brodano as being markedly better than Keith and Seabrook.

            Fact, nobody has driven play better against tougher comp than those two guys. Period.

            As for Yandle, you expose your ignorance, he’s just a younger version of Wideman, offensively he’s a first unit PP. guy but defensively he’s heavily sheltered in zone starts and faces creampuff competition.

            In other words your response is garbage.

          • Cfan in Vic

            In this post, you most certainly implied that Gio is injury prone. That’s the only semi-logical point you could have been making.

            Like many have mentioned, a browse down Gio’s stats doesn’t give a proper indication of his injury history.

            Like so many Oilers trolls, you don’t actually follow this team, therefor you don’t really know the details behind the mutterings you make about the Flames. Go figure, an Oilers fan who doesn’t know everything.

      • SmellOfVictory

        You’re throwing some weird names out there; Hickey/Kindl/Rundblad/van Reimsdyk, are all bottom pairing quality dmen, and Gunnarson/Carle/Martinez are no better than Dennis Wideman.

        But I agree, the Flames’ defense isn’t the best in the league (certainly not when you include #4-6), but the top 3 guys in the defensive corps are definitely up there with the best in the league. I don’t think it could be definitely argued that there are any top 3 dmen who in the NHL who are better than Gio/Brodie/Hamilton as a group.

        • RedMan

          Well it was said that they have the best core in the league, and even though some the names are bottom pair guys, or up and coming guys, they are still big parts to their team’s success and demonstrates the depth of some of the other cores out there. For example Matt Carle was top pair in Philly, but is second pair in Tampa.

          I respectfully disagree it can be definitively argued Keith, Seabrook, and Hjalmersson are a better top three than in Calgary. As are Doughty, Erhoff, and Muzzin or Voynov. Why, because those guys have won cups and Vezinas and gold medals, and get more collective points, and have better possession numbers, and play more minutes.

          But as you mentioned, weird names, tough to argue who the best D Core difinitively in the league is. I suppose the team who last won the cup because, well, they won the friggin cup.

        • DoubleDIon

          I’d be shocked if Voynov was back this year. I think it’s why they just signed Erhoff. St. Louis is definitely up there. I think we have the best offensive group of defensemen, but there are clubs with better defenders. I can’t think of a club where their 5th highest scoring defenseman finished 40th overall in the league.

          • Parallex

            I dunno… you’d think that given how quickly they’ve attempted to void Richards contract that they’d have done the same to Voynov if they had made up their mind about him.

            Really, if you can sign Erhoff for 1.5M you do it regardless of whether Voynov comes back or not.

          • DoubleDIon

            I’m not saying they don’t want him back. Just seems like they went and got a guy who can slide into the top 4 in his spot. I think the league wants to avoid the NFL gong show of letting abusers back too soon.

          • RedMan

            didn’t the Kings just cancel a contract for a guy stopped at the border with a traffic ticket, Richards or someone?

            if so, surely something this egregious act will warrant a contract cancellation… or did the kings just cancel the contract cause they dont want to pay, and really could care less about these wife beates?

          • mk

            RE: Voynov & Richards
            This is exactly what I can’t wrap my mind around. Drug issues that should be treated via the NHLPA substance abuse program? Void the contract! Physical abuse of a spouse? “The Kings stand with Slava in this time of challenge.” I can’t help but be suspicious about the motives for the difference in approach. Richards was a bad contract in an area of strength for the Kings. Voynov is a decent contract in an area of potential weakness.

            Maybe there is more to it than is known. But it does seem odd.

  • RedMan

    Huzzah!

    But look at this sentence and tell me you don’t think you might want to re-write it:

    “Though Giordano has mostly been extraordinarily durable in his career, he hasn’t played a full 82 game season since the 2010-11 campaign.”

    A player who hasn’t played a full 82 (or frankly that close, missed 10+ in all of the full seasons since 2010-11) is not “extraordinarily durable”. I would suggest he has been very “ordinarily durable”.

  • DestroDertell

    This debate about whether calgary has the best defensive group in the league is interesting. Some of my thoughts:

    • Ranger’s defensive group is hilariously overrated. McDonagh and Yandle are damn good, Boyle and Staal are both meh. Girardi on the first pair? LMAO.
    • I don’t think the bottom pairing defensemen are worthy of note, extreme cases of inferiority (Engelland) or superiority (Schlemko) aside. They’re much easier to find and replace for peanuts.
    • On that note, Flames have the best top 3 in the league but there’s a big hole at the #4 spot right now. The team with the best top 4 has to be either TB or LA with the Erhroff addition.
    • Aside from Ekbald and JVR, Weber is the most overrated player in the league.
    • DestroDertell

      Aside from Ekbald and JVR, Weber is the most overrated player in the league.

      Two words: Ryan Suter.

      And Ekblad is(was) 18. I mean, really. He was a full time NHLer–as a defenseman–before he turned 19. Even Hamilton didn’t manage that.

      • DestroDertell

        I forgot about Ryan Suter. And I’m a huge believer that Campbell made Ekbald’s season. He might be overpaid and aging but he was still a damn good defenseman and it showed.

    • Bob Cobb

      You need to stop drinking water straight from the Oldman River! No way the Flames win 2 cups in the 6 years of the contract when they have won 1 in there entire history.

  • Parallex

    I’m not saying Gio is Nik Lidstrom. But I believe he’s going to age a lot more like Lidstrom than, say, Zdeno Chara (washed up at 36). I think there’s a real good chance he’s still worth 6.75 mil at 39 – a good chance there’s not a bad year on this contract.

  • Burnward

    Gotta love it! Anyone know who is the Flames lead negotiator for contracts? Treliving? Burke? One of the AGMs? A combination? My hunch is that Burke has some influence with this, but whoever it is, they’re doing an amazing job.

  • everton fc

    Wonder when BT will get Ferland inked?

    As for Gio, the no-trade clause seems to prove he really likes living here, doesn’t want to leave, and the terms prove he wants to not only win, but put the stamp on his captaincy here as well. I respect every bit of that.

    And we need to keep Russell. He’s a Flame. An Albertan. One of us.

    • Peplinski's Thunderbird

      I truly think Hartley really likes Russell’s game & will pair him with Hamilton. & I really believe he is going to have such a good year coming up, we are going to be scrambling to getting him inked to a good new contract, which would be a great problem to have based on BT’s track record. I wonder if this extension of Gio opens the door to a trade with Wideman involved & one of our excess forwards, Raymond cough…..

  • KACaribou

    Thank you Gio for not being the greedy SOB we all feared you had become when news of a possible $9 – $10 million demand first hit.

    Thank you for being the team guy we had all hoped you really were. Your contract will enable the Flames to do so much more and to be so much better because we can afford to have you on the team!

    You proved to be exactly the fine man we all believed you to be!

  • Burnward

    Re: future cap management

    May not be the best asset management but I bet any one of Raymond, Engellend or Stajan gets claimed on waivers if worse comes to worse.

    BT gets it. And this team is very easy to manage.

    Good times boys. Good times.

    • Derzie

      Id be VERY surprised if Stajan was put on waivers. INCREDIBLY surprised. He is lauded as a heart player of this team. I think Staj is loved by his teammates and coaches. I dont think they would put him through waivers. A trade maybe. They are always saying they want good humans as well as hockey players….

  • prendrefeu

    I hate Oilers fans more than I dislike their team. Is that even possible?
    Geez they’re annoying little brats.

    Go to the mall or make something of your lives, seriously.
    Good luck to your team when the season starts, and even then, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR STUPID TROLLING ON THE NEWS OF OTHER TEAMS.

    Your posts are just pathetic and ruin the entire nations network. Just stick to your own site, your own news, and enjoy your own team. If there is a cross-post across the nations which is NOT about your team, such as this one, then read it and move on.

    Or, better yet, read the title and realize it isn’t about your team and, once again, MOVE ON.

    Seriously, grow up you pathetic man-children. You’re making your entire city look bad.

      • DestroDertell

        He played three full seasons in the last six years. Worth noting last year’s injury was a complete fluke; not exactly material for the “injury prone” narrative.

        • Train#97

          Get your facts straight! The last 4 years he averaged 58 games played 5 and 6 years ago he played 82. He has not played 3 – 82 game seasons and the 2 years before that he played 58 and 48 games.
          He is a very good player but he has had injury problems his whole career.
          Not trolling , just stating the facts, so don’t get so defensive!! No big deal but he ain’t no iron man!!

          • Train#97

            Uh ya I did factor that 48 game season . He has had a crapload of missed games if you want to ignore it go ahead but it’s reality!!
            Giordano has played 509 /720 possible games. That’s an average of 30% games missed due to injury in his career.

          • Train#97

            Walter Walter Walter 61+ 47+64+61= 233 you following Walter? Now divide 233 by 4 still with me Walter? Ok divide and you get 58 . Wow Walter. There you go son!! Average of 58 games

          • The GREAT Walter White

            The last 6 years he has played 397 out of 458 possible games.

            Assuming all the missed games were due to injury; he played 87% of the games without being injured.

            Let’s look at the Oilers “core” shall we…

            WW

          • Train#97

            Walter you forgot the 3 seasons before that. You just can’t omit the years you want. Done playing your game Walter. Don’t expect another comment so you’ll have to find another to troll.

          • The GREAT Walter White

            Did he not play 82 games 8 years ago because he was injured ?
            Or did he not make the lineup those nights ?

            He was a late bloomer. The Flames don’t just put their first overall picks in the NHL from the start you know…(BTW Gio was not drafted….).

            What were his injuries? broken foot from blocking a shot ?
            (Oilers would never get an injury like that…)
            Super dirty can opener?

            He is Not injury prone. Just some bad luck from playing hard the last couple of years.

            WW

          • piscera.infada

            As much as it pains me to agree with WW, he’s right in this instance. Giordano was more of a fringe player coming into the ’08-’09 season. Any seasons before that he was yo-yo’d between the AHL and NHL–he didn’t “miss those games due to injury”. In fact, he played in the KHL the year before, because he thought he had paid his dues in AHL to warrant an NHL job–many in Calgary thought his time as a Flame was over.

            While signing an ever aging player to a 6 year contract is, in fact, a concern because of increased injury risk, I too feel the narrative about Giordano being “injury prone” is way overblown. As WW said, of the four year period everyone points to, one was lockout shortened, one he missed significant time breaking a bone in his ankle blocking a shot (which could happen to anyone at any given moment, and is not a recurring injury), and the other was a strange can opener play where a stick was pinned between his arm and body creating a significant amount of torque on his biceps tendon (again, flukey, however that may have weakened the tendon, I don’t know).

            However, it’s not like he’s had three concussions in four years, or two torn ACL’s in four years.

          • piscera.infada

            All I can find is “lower body injury” and I don’t remember it. I’m willing to concede the fact that he was injured for three of the last four years, that’s fact, there’s no disputing it.

            Making the argument that a broken ankle off a shot block, or a freak injury like the one this last season, is being “prone to injury”, is akin to me saying “McDavid has weak hands, and is thusly prone to devastating hand injuries” simply because he missed a punch and shattered his hand on the glass in one game. Disregarding the nature of injuries in these cases, quite literally belies the idea of being ‘prone’ to injury.

            I’m also willing to concede that I am, in fact somewhat worried about his body deteriorating over the remaining 7 years he’s a Flame. I think most Flames’ fans would tell you that’s reasonable. However, I prefer having Gio on the current iteration of the Flames much more than not having Gio, and I also understand that if Gio made it to UFA status next year he’d be offered a contract that in all likelihood would dwarf the one he just signed. Sometimes you have to take on risk with players, and as much I would have loved the same dollar value for four years, that was never going to happen.

          • piscera.infada

            In fact, he played in the KHL the year before…

            *RSL. The KHL didn’t exist yet.

            All I can find is “lower body injury” and I don’t remember it.

            For some reason I remember it being a hip flexor or something.

          • MontanaMan

            Please go back to ON and start a thread on the Oilers solid defensive core that includes castaways, pylons and under achieving youngsters. The Flames defence is stellar and one of the best in the league. Meanwhile in Edmonton, the city is rejoicing over another forward while their defensive game remains one of the worst in the league.

          • BurningSensation

            Train p!ss off. What is your point that you seem to want to troll on a Flames site? Gio is injury prone & Flames will regret this stupid signing? Why don’t you just come out & say what you mean & get lost. Gio is an awesome player when he plays. I guess if you disagree that he isn’t because he rarely plays a full season, it would be something like Taylor Hall who many Oil faithful feel he is the best winger in the NHL. But geez, he’s way younger & in his young career he’s played 65games, 61 games, **45games(lockout), 75 games & 53 games. Seems to me Oilers have invested 6.0 mill per year on an injury prone player too. I guess that means he isn’t very good because he’s reckless & isn’t very durable.

            Every thread you seem to hijack & I see nothing but your bantering with several regulars here. Go away now, I think I understand that your opinion is that Gio is not very durable. I get it. Neither is Hall but they are big pieces of our respective teams & we Flames fans are thrilled to have him signed for another 6 years.

          • Train#97

            Never once did I say he was injury prone or he wasn’t worth the contract,so quit coming up with your own conclusions. Find one instance where I called him a loser or tool or mcsuck and luck or anything derogatory!!!!

          • Captain Ron

            You tell em buddy!!!

            Hate coming here to continually see a bunch of useless clutter from fans of another team. Especially the cowards who don’t have the balls to sign in under a registered user name. News flash for you we don’t care what you think.

            Lets drop the puck in October and see where we all are by the end of November or December. Then lets have a chat. Pretty sure I know who is ahead of who at that point.

  • Big Ell

    Wow, I wanted him dealt when I thought he was getting big money on a long term. This seems pretty reasonable. I have no problem with him making big money at 38-39, he will have earned it with 2 reasonable contracts with the Flames.

    • DoubleDIon

      His dose of reality is only partial reality. Detroit has one legitimate top 4 defenseman on their roster and he has them on the list of good bluelines. After the top 3 in Chicago we could ice a better bottom 3 out of our AHL affiliate. We have a very solid top 5 right now.

      • RedMan

        Fair point. I think everyone’s mileage is gonna vary. But, as it usually goes with Detroit players, they are underrated as they all kind of fly under the radar. Kronwall, is very good. Green had some injury years but I think he proved last year he is still elite. And he’s still young enough to be elite. As for the other names, they are big up and comers easily comparable to Brodie and Hamilton. But again, everyone’s mileage will vary.

      • piscera.infada

        I too think the whole “best D in the league” argument is bunk. Make no mistake, they’re good. Very good. I would say the Rangers, the Preds, and Anaheim are probably the three best d-cores in the league all things considered. The scary thing is that the Preds and Anaheim have a lot of room for growth with great, young, top-4 options (and more on the way).

        I’ll reiterate again though, that there are very few bluelines I would take over the Flames right now, and those are just me trying to be unbiased. In a few years (with the addition of some young defensemen from our prospect system–the Hickey’s, Kylington’s, Andersson’s, god willing…), we could very well be looking at the best D core in the game.

        • imthedude63

          Its is great to be fired up about Flames hockey again. I feel Gio has shown the type of guy and leader he truly is by signing this deal. As for the best D in the league we are going to have to sit back and see how our “top D” plays out. The other “best D in the league” teams are NHL game proven. I am stoked to watch Gio and his D mates earn their way to “best D in the league”

  • piscera.infada

    This is a great contract. I had always thought I would be okay if he got about $8m for the first 3 year(a slight overpay for the last 3 years of his current salary which was a great deal for the flames) and then for any years after the three an average decrease in contract hit of somewhere between 1/4 million to a 1/2 million which is what this works out to.

    Now get Ferland signed and move some of the assets for a 2nd line winger to play with Bennett and Frolik and we can start the season.

    • PrairieStew

      I’m with you on the second line winger. I’ve mentioned it a couple of times over the summer. A real solid veteran with Bennett and Frolik could make the Flames very difficult to defend. Colborne/Raymond not the answer now or in to the future as a top 6 winger.

      In additon to the obvious trade targets of Colborne, Raymond, Bollig and even Stajan; the Flames have alot of younger assets to dangle in a trade, group them in twos and give team choice of one or the other eg Jooris or Shore; Sieloff or Wotherspoon, Ortio or Gilles; Poirer or Klimchuk, Morisson or Hickey, Culkin or Kulak, Byron or Agostino

      • Derzie

        Don’t agree on the winger, and certainly not dangling at least half the guys you mentioned. Unless you are getting an Allstar or perennial top scorer that’s crazy.

        • PrairieStew

          It would have to be someone very good, but Raymond, Colborne and Ferland aren’t the answer as elite second liners.. Jeff Skinner is young, but Hartnell or Foligno from Columbus would be more reliable. I agree that it is tough to consider trading some of those guys, but realistically they are not all going to play. How many 4th line options and 3rd pair D do you need? Those roles don’t have to be filled with prospects. Going in to this season, the Flames are 3 significant players better than the team that won a playoff round, and adding that second line winger would make it 4 players better and the top 9 pretty darn good.

          As an example I would trade Culkin, Wotherspoon, Agostino and Raymond for Okposo, JVR or those other guys I mentioned.

          • Peplinski's Thunderbird

            Skinner is guy I think would really change things upfront but what would be the price? I have thought that Wideman,Raymond and one of the higher end prospects might be able to get it done. I am unsure about his injury status. Ferland may be the guy. I was also wondering how Granlund might look as the lW with Bennett and Frolik.

          • RedMan

            different things I’ve read suggest Granlund may have a lot of offensive upside. can he quietly show up as the 2ND line left wing?? possible.

            Bouma’s earning the pay check for the position, and Ferlands past scoring touch suggests he may have offensive upside.. exciting times

          • RedMan

            Granlund is a natural goalscorer, but his overall game isn’t NHL level yet (or it wasn’t last year anyway). If he were to make that jump though, his shot would be a great asset on Bennett’s wing.

          • Danomitee

            Skinner would be interesting, but I don’t know what the Flames have that the Hurricanes want (other than prospects of course). No doubt they’d want Klimchuk or Poirier, but I don’t think they’d have much interest in Wideman or Raymond. But of course, the Flames have to move salary.

          • Train#97

            From what I recall Skinner has had multiple concussions already and hasn’t been the same player as his first year. I don’t think he’s worth the risk.

            Although I’m onboard with a quality for quantity trade, Ferland is off-limits for me as he has proven his offensive chops in Junior and adds an element essential to playoffs success that no one else brings.

            Also I’m not down on a 4-1 trade, 2-1 or at best 3-1 depending on the players. Perhaps Wideman, Raymond and say, Granlund might work for a top-level player… But even that sounds too much for me.

            Anyways there is no need to rush into something. I firmly believe Ferland can be that guy, and if not Klimchuck, or Hudler with Poirier taking the RW spot.

          • The GREAT Walter White

            From what I recall Skinner has had multiple concussions already and hasn’t been the same player as his first year. I don’t think he’s worth the risk.

            He scored 30+ goals as recently as two years ago. Last year he was very off, no question, but he’s only once failed to hit a 70 game pace in a season (he played 42 of 48 in the lockout year).

            My guess would be he was heavily sheltered in his first year and has been facing tougher comp since.

  • PrairieStew

    Not sure how Treliving keeps pulling these deals off, but hats off to him. Another fantastic deal.

    Yes, Gio won’t be the same player for the last couple of years of his contract as he is now, but the addition of Hamilton means he can be paced in terms of ice time now and eventually drop to the 2nd pairing. Hopefully that helps on the injury front as well as the overall mileage.

    For a guy who is the heart and soul of the team and embodies everything the team aspires to be, overall, this is a very acceptable deal. Very glad the whole 9M/8 years things was moved away from because Gio is certainly being well rewarded here as well.

    Great day for Flames fans!