Who’s Left? What’s Next? And Other Questions

The Calgary Flames made a few roster moves today.

Who’s left in camp? What’s going to happen next? We take a swing at the questions that you’ve got on your mind heading into the very end of training camp.

WHO’S LEFT IN CAMP?

28 players are left in camp, presuming Drew Shore will be immediately demoted to the AHL’s Stockton Heat if he clears waivers. Players who are waiver exempt are noted.

  • #1 Jonas Hiller [G]
  • #31 Karri Ramo [G]
  • #37 Joni Ortio [G]
  • #4 Kris Russell [D]
  • #5 Mark Giordano [D]
  • #6 Dennis Wideman [D]
  • #7 T.J. Brodie [D] INJURED (Hand)
  • #8 Joe Colborne [F] INJURED (Hand)
  • #11 Mikael Backlund [F]
  • #13 Johnny Gaudreau [F]
  • #15 Ladislav Smid [D] INJURED (Neck)
  • #16 Josh Jooris [F]
  • #17 Lance Bouma [F]
  • #18 Matt Stajan [F]
  • #19 David Jones [F]
  • #21 Mason Raymond [F]
  • #23 Sean Monahan [F]
  • #24 Jiri Hudler [F]
  • #27 Dougie Hamilton [D]
  • #29 Deryk Engelland [D]
  • #32 Paul Byron [F]
  • #44 Ryan Wilson [D]
  • #52 Brandon Bollig [F]
  • #60 Markus Granlund [F] WAIVER EXEMPT
  • #61 Brett Kulak [D] WAIVER EXEMPT
  • #67 Michael Frolik [F]
  • #79 Micheal Ferland [F]
  • #93 Sam Bennett [F] WAIVER EXEMPT (but can only go back to the OHL)

The 28-man roster includes 3 goalies, 9 defensemen and 16 forwards.

    WHAT’S NEXT?

    The Flames need to get down to 23 bodies by 3pm MT on Tuesday. That means they need to make 5 players inactive – either by sending them to the AHL, trading them or placing them on the injured reserve.

    If we presume that Brodie, Colborne and Smid are going to be on the shelf for the first chunk of the season, that’s three spots cleared up right there, and the Flames just need to trim out two bodies.

    Which two bodies depends on what they want to do…

    IF THEY CARRY THREE GOALIES: Then two skaters are going bye-bye, likely in the form of Markus Granlund (because he doesn’t require waivers) and one of Ryan Wilson or Brett Kulak. Bear in mind that Wilson doesn’t have a contract with the NHL club right now and would need to be signed by Tuesday to stay. The team would carry 3 goalies, 6 defensemen and 14 forwards.

    IF THEY CARRY TWO GOALIES: Then one of the goalies goes on waivers on Monday and they send a forward down. Again, it’ll probably be Markus Granlund going to the AHL because he doesn’t require waivers and is the easiest to send down. The team would carry 2 goalies, 7 defensemen and 14 forwards.

    Either way, they play tomorrow against Winnipeg. Then expect any waivers action to take place on Monday morning, with the team making its final moves on Tuesday morning before submitting their opening roster to the league office at 3pm MT.

    WHEN DOES EVERYONE GET HEALTHY?

    According to a tweet by Pat Steinberg, Bob Hartley indicated today that Colborne is week-to-week. Ladislav Smid is also probably week-to-week as he gets back into the swing of things after neck surgery – though that’s 100% speculation. Brodie is expected back around the end of October (or could be out until mid-November) – with more specific timelines probably becoming available fairly soon.

    What happens to free up roster spots is unclear. On the blueline it’s pretty simple – whichever of Wilson or Kulak (or both) go down to make room for Brodie and/or Smid. Opening up a forward spot is much more difficult and will likely involve the waiver wire.

    But that’s a problem for a week or two down the line.

    SO, GRANLUND, WILSON KULAK HAVE MADE THE TEAM?

    Not necessarily. Even if they’re here on Tuesday, it’s likely that one (or both) get demoted when Colborne or a defenseman get healthy.

    WHEN DO GAMES START?

    Wednesday night. Calgary plays Vancouver.

    COOL

    • Big Ell

      If the Flames go with 2 goalies who gets moved out?

      Trades? Mason Raymond can go IMHO…..but I guess this scenario is unlikely given teams are having to cut players at this time….

      Maybe Babcock gets so disgusted with the play of his veterans and asks for Mason Raymond and Deryk Enggeland in a trade!!

    • oddclod

      Our drafts have been great since Button has been given the keys to the Camaro (since Sutter left). BB+BT+BH best new ops department in the NHL. Detroit losing Nil and Babcock ranks us above them IMO. What a change of fortunes over the past 5 yrs. What a team. Go Flames.

    • supra steve

      Very doubtful any meaningful trade is made by Tuesday. That means we are likely going to see 3 goalies. At least until the season starts & GM’s feel they need to make moves. Interesting but it looks like Halak may not be available for their opener. Possible Hiller destination?

      Until the goalie situation is resolved, I think we run 6 D & keep Kulak & cut Wilson loose. I don’t think we would be losing anything. If Kulak struggles, or their is an injury, we have Nakladal or Wotherspoon as quick fixes & Kulak could be easily sent down if necessary. Granlund will probably get caught in the numbers game & then we have no loss of assets. It will get complicated & force BT into making some moves as we start getting healthy bodies back. But this is the NHL & injuries can & will happen & totally change everything.

    • Here’s hoping Kulak can be an everyday NHLer. After listening to Eric Francis say Russell will be looking for $5-7m next year I’m really hoping all the kids can step up.(Note I like Russell but I’m not sure I would pay over $3.5m)

        • everton fc

          I agree with you but when I hear people who are supposed to be connected having discussions like this I worry. But really maybe we should just turn off these so called experts. (Some how Craig Button is called an insider and a an expert even after his work with the Falmes)

          • Cfan in Vic

            Russel would be a fool to expect that kind of money, given the contracts for Gio, Hamilton, and Brodie. He’s nowhere near that caliber, both he and his agent have to know that.

            I bet he gets 3M per. From here or elsewhere.

          • supra steve

            Russell has been a great acquisition for the club…but if come the trade deadline, some of our younger D-men are progressing and Nakladal has learned the NA game, I could see the Flames entertaining thoughts of moving him. My assumption is that the top 3 D are here to stay, everyone below could be moved for the right price to make some room for up and comers.

            Heck, if Smid comes back injury free, who knows what level he may be at. Could be a big turd or could be back to pre fusion Smid. That would be such a bonus. Not saying I’m expecting it, just that a little time could make Russell totally expendable.

            As for Francis, he’s like the rest of us, occasionally he says some totally stupid stuff. It’s just that he’s always saying it in the mass media.

      • RedMan

        Russell may be looking for 5-7 mill, sort of like Gio was looking for 9 mill for 8 years.

        more likely see a guy like russell sign at 4 for 4, or be traded. lots of prospects coming up.

    • I think they’ll keep Wilson if only because he’s better suited to “7th defeseman” duty than a kid like Kulak. If Kulak isn’t in the lineup, then it’s better for him to be playing in the AHL than sitting out.

      • supra steve

        I think if our goalie situation isn’t resolved & weighing out options. I definitely would not want to expose Ortio to waivers. I really don’t like the optic of waiving Ramo or Hiller, fate has a way of really making you pay for stuff like that. Releasing Wilson will pretty well go un-noticed. If you are going with 6 D to keep all 3 goalies until we get Brodie/Smid back, go with the kid Kulak, he’s earned the shot at some NHL games. When Brodie or Smid get back into the lineup, send Kulak back down & bring Nakladal for the 7th guy.

    • Denscafon

      Due to the pending cap crunch that is going to happen after this season, I don’t see a way that Russell gets a new contract unfortunately. I like the guy and think he’s appropriate to be an assistant captain but with the influx of d prospects that could make the jump next season (kulak/wotherspoon/anderson/kylington) that can take his spot on the cheap, there’s just no cap space for him. I won’t be surprised and actually hoping wideman gets traded as well to maximize asset management and cap space.