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FlamesNation prospect update: Valimaking a difference

| christian tiberi

When you write 30 of these per year, you eventually run out of interesting titles.

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Rasmus Andersson – D, Stockton Heat, AHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 50 8 29 37 23 21 14 28.52
Change from last week 3 1 1 2 1 1 0 -0.18

As you watch this, remember that Michael Stone has two more years left on his contract and also that Mike Smith has one less assist than him.

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Austin Carroll – RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 31 5 2 7 7 6 6 8.7
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.94

No points for Carroll this week.

Dillon Dube – C/LW, Kelowna Rockets, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 51 34 43 77 42 59 33 35.90
Change from last week 3 2 3 5 3 4 3 +0.23

Five point weeks are starting to become the standard for Dube.

Zach Fischer – RW, Spokane Chiefs, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 46 22 14 36 25 25 20 18.61
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Still injured with a UBI. No timetable for a return.

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Spencer Foo – RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 53 18 16 34 16 26 12 24.72
Change from last week 3 2 0 2 1 2 1 +0.05

Two goals for Foo this week. With Mangiapane out, he’s likely going to pick up the offensive burden for the Heat. He’s been hot as of late, so maybe he can carry the team into the playoffs.

Adam Fox – D, Harvard Crimson, ECAC

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 28 6 21 27 9 16 5 18.19
Change from last week 3 3 4 7 2 6 2 +3.1

With their season on the line, Fox stepped up and scored six points (one was a stat correction) to help lead the Crimson over Dartmouth in their quarterfinal three-game series. They’ll play Clarkson in the semifinals, a team Harvard tied once (a 6-6 affair) and beat once. Harvard’s route to the Frozen Four goes through the ECAC tournament, as they’re unlikely to get in on merit alone. Fox is doing his damnedest to keep the season alive.

Glenn Gawdin – C/RW, Swift Current Broncos, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 66 56 68 124 63 95 48 44.68
Change from last week 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 +0.05

With a playoff spot wrapped up and the flu spreading around, the Broncos have started to rest Gawdin. They lost both games he was scratched in, so draw your own conclusions.

Josh Healey – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 39 0 3 3 2 2 1 2.96
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.16

Played two games of hockey this week.

Jaromir Jagr – RW, Rytiri Kladno, Czech.1

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 5 0 4 4 4 2 2 18.37
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Played five games in the playoffs, but hasn’t registered a point.

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D’Artagnan Joly – RW, Baie-Comeau Drakkar, QMJHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 52 23 43 66 38 54 33 26.02
Change from last week 3 1 3 4 2 2 2 +0.08

Joly registered just over a point-per-game this week. I also gave him props as the Flames’ most under-the-radar prospect in this week’s mailbag, if you want to check that out.

Pavel Karnaukhov – LW/C, CSKA Moscow, KHL/Zvezda, VHL

Zvezda was swept in their playoff series, so they’re already done. Karnaukhov only played one game, unknown why he didn’t play in the others.

Morgan Klimchuk – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 52 18 18 36 22 29 19 26.68
Change from last week 3 0 2 2 1 1 1 -0.06

Two assists for Klimchuk this week. Alongside Foo, he’ll probably be the most relied upon forward to keep the Heat in the playoffs.

Oliver Kylington – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 49 3 26 29 20 19 14 22.81
Change from last week 3 0 2 2 2 1 1 +0.19

Two assists for Kylington this week after a quiet few weeks on that front. Despite the difference on the conventional statline, he’s actually very similar to Andersson with regards to primary points, 5v5 points, and 5v5 primary points. Given that he also sees less ice time than Andersson, those numbers are pretty dang good.

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Linus Lindstrom – C/LW, Skelleftea AIK, SHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 41 3 1 4 3 3 2 4.64
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.37

Three games, no points for Lindstrom this week. The SHL season is now over, so keep your eyes peeled for a season wrap-up post for him.

Ryan Lomberg – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 43 7 11 18 15 11 9 16.13
Change from last week 3 2 0 2 1 2 1 0.71

Two goals for Lomberg this week, picking up after going point-less the previous week.

Andrew Mangiapane – LW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 39 21 25 46 26 35 22 45.46
Change from last week 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.81

It’s unknown what caused Mangiapane’s injury, or when it happened. Kind of caught everyone off guard.

Mitchell Mattson – C/LW, Sioux Falls Stampede, USHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 44 9 11 20 15 18 13 10.44
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Didn’t play. No reason given.

Adam Ollas Mattsson – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Injured.

Matthew Phillips – C/RW, Victoria Royals, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 69 47 64 111 49 82 37 38.25
Change from last week 4 3 4 7 3 5 1 +0.2

Pretty damned good.

Emile Poirier – LW/RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 53 4 17 21 13 18 11 15.27
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.92

No points for Poirier again. Not really working out as a third liner in the AHL.

Brett Pollock – LW/C, Stockton Heat, AHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 32 7 5 12 8 10 7 14.45
Change from last week 3 1 2 3 2 3 2 +2.49

Three points in three games for Pollock, who has quietly become one of the Heat’s late season heroes. He has points in his last four games, and is starting to look better as time has gone on. Maybe he is a late bloomer? That would be intriguing.

Daniel Pribyl – RW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Still injured.

Adam Ruzicka – C/LW, Sarnia Sting, OHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 61 35 36 71 37 60 32 28.63
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 -0.56

Just a goal this week for Ruzicka.

Hunter Shinkaruk – F, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 52 15 12 27 17 23 16 20.01
Change from last week 3 0 1 1 1 1 1 -0.53

Just an assist this week for Shinkaruk.

Hunter Smith – RW, Kansas City Mavericks, ECHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 35 9 8 17 13 17 13 11.15
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Smith is recovering from an upper body injury. He hasn’t played since Jan. 6.

Filip Sveningsson – LW, HV71, Superelit/SHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
SHL current 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Superelit current 35 17 22 39 23 30 18 18.27
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 -0.61

Just a goal this week for Sveningsson. His season is also finished, so he’ll see a wrap-up post sometime shortly as well.

Eetu Tuulola – RW, HPK, SM-Liiga

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 51 16 10 26 10 19 9 17.98
Change from last week 2 1 1 2 1 2 1 +0.71

Ditto for Tuulola, who ended his season strong with a goal and an assist in the final game. He’ll join HPK’s U20 team for their playoffs.

Juuso Valimaki – D, Tri-City Americans, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 39 13 25 38 23 26 17 23.17
Change from last week 4 2 3 5 3 4 3 +0.75

Valimaki went on a tear this week, scoring five points. Also, if you know Finnish or know someone who does, would you or your pal kindly transcribe this podcast featuring Valimaki?

Tyler Wotherspoon – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 54 7 26 33 17 17 10 23.55
Change from last week 3 0 1 1 0 1 0 -0.63

Wotherspoon is slowing down a bit over the past few weeks. Perhaps this opens the door for a potential Kylington-Andersson pairing?

Jon Gillies – G, Stockton Heat

GP TOI SV% SA
Current 31 1658.85 0.915 869
Change from last week 0 0 0 0

Gillies is back in Stockton after a rough end to his Calgary experience. I think his performance in Calgary wasn’t at all indicative of his talent, as he is usually much better. Stage fright and just not mentally being there seemed to hold him back in the NHL.

Mason McDonald – G, Kansas City Mavericks/Stockton Heat

GP TOI SV% SA
ECHL Current 24 1358 0.892 619
Change from last week 0 0 0 0
AHL Current 4 224.35 0.875 104
Change from last week 0 0 0 0

Injured, should be back soon.

Tyler Parsons – G, Stockton Heat/Kansas City Mavericks

GP TOI SV% SA
ECHL Current 23 1273 0.905 686
Change from last week 0 0 0 0
AHL Current 7 300.98 0.856 153
Change from last week 0 0 0 0

Injured.

Nick Schneider – G, Calgary Hitmen, WHL

GP TOI SV% SA
Current 59 3009 0.885 1803
Change from last week 2 120.32 0 62

Schneider’s SV% has pretty much remained constant for the past few weeks. Perhaps when you’ve faced nearly 2,000 shots, there’s enough volume that it won’t wildly swing in one direction or another. The Hitmen also did not make the playoffs this year, so he can either join the Heat or the KC Mavericks. Likely the latter, but depends if Stockton’s goalie injuries clear up.


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  • McRib
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    The Hamonic trade and the Stone three year signing are the weirdest most baffling things Treliving has done the latter is basically a fireable offense on its own, especially not protecting that first rounder for a lottery pick.

    Kylington-Brodie, Kulak-Andersson pairings this year would have netted us 31.7 more points according to NHLe (Andersson + Kylington 51.3 – Hamonic + Stone 19.6), those numbers are basically the same if you switch Kylington with Wotherspoon, thousand Kylington skating is today’s NHL would play at 20 years old. Kylington could lap Hamonic going backwards.

    Treliving goes out of his way to acquire all these great defensive prospects via the draft and then he blocks them with aging defenders on bad trades and signings for not one or two years, but three long years. I just will never understand this at all. If Kylington-Andersson continue to stay in the AHL next year it is going to get more and more foolish. 25-30 more points from the blueline is likely the difference between us making the playoffs or not. Not that we’re an offensively starved team or anything.

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    • Mickey O
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      Usually agree with your takes McRib, but to trot out Kylington-Brodie & Kulak-Andersson as your bottom 2 pairings is a heck of a lot to ask from 3 newbies who have very little NHL experience between them. I doubt any GM would attempt that, especially not BT who is obviously conservative when it comes to prospects. In Treliving’s world, prospects basically have to be beating down the NHL door and prove that they’ve over-stayed their time in the minors.

      Andersson seems at that point now of booting in the door. From the highlights I’ve watched this season, he just keeps getting better. He’s ready to make the jump. But the NHLe numbers are in some ways comparing apples to oranges. Andersson is playing big minutes in Stockton, and gets prime PP time. If he makes it to Calgary next year, his ice time figures to get cut in half and then some, with no PP time.

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    • Cheeky
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      I understand why BT traded for Hamonic (though not at that price) and I understand signing Stone (he and Brodie seemed to do alright together at end of last year). However both together were and still are head scratchers. I get that BT figured we were going for it this year and injuries occur but neither really happened. Hopefully BT (or whoever our GM is) can move a vet dman or 2 and open up room for Ras and Kylington (if ready)…

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    • BendingCorners
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      NHLe is not useful for predicting an individual player’s performance in the NHL. It provides a very rough comparison between minor leagues, nothing more. It fails at the individual level because:
      A. It is based on players that made the jump and ignores all those players with good AHL numbers that fail to make it in the NHL.
      B. It provides no variance information, i.e. standard deviation. An NHLe of 23 with SD=20 would tell you that 66% of the players with that NHLe went on to score between 3 and 43 points in the NHL. Without this information the average is meaningless.
      C. A player’s utilisation may be completely different in the NHL than in the AHL, rendering his AHL numbers moot.

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    • JMK
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      I don’t think Flames brass thought Andersson was ready this season. Management had him up for a long spell at the end of last year to evaluate. But I agree that Andersson probably was ready. Kylington I’m not so sure but next training camp will be interesting.

      I don’t understand the hate for signing Stone though. I’ve liked his game this year albeit he is a tad expensive; still when you see what Adam Larsson was traded for it’s not hard to see the Flames at least getting what they paid for him back. I’m not saying Stone is as good as Larsson, but they are both right shots, Stone earns 600-700k less, and they are both ‘defensive’ defensemen in that they don’t score all that much. Stone won’t get you a Taylor Hall but could he nab a 2nd round pick +? Not impossible.

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      • cjc
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        Stone has a 15-team NTC which severely limits options. Is 27, and has just 5 points in 70 games and is a -10. He is the team’s worst regular defender in terms of possession (-5.48% CFRel). This has been his worst NHL season no matter how you cut it. No GM in their right mind is giving up a 2nd for Stone, even Chiarelli.

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        • Mickey O
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          RHS defencemen go for a big premium in the league right now. I think Stone was brought in as an expensive insurance policy in case of injuries on the back end. That didn’t happen, only Hamonic missed a few games. Stone could play up the line-up on some teams, and play on both special teams, like he is now. A second rounder is too much, but you might get a third back for him.

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  • Baalzamon
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    For anyone who’s still afraid Fox has taken a step back consider: He was fifth in Harvard scoring last year; he’s third this year. He didn’t get worse, his team did.

    As you watch this, remember that Michael Stone has two more years left on his contract and also that Mike Smith has one less assist than him.

    The Cody Goloubef signing says two things to me: 1. that Andersson is expected to be in the NHL next year and 2. that Fox is expected to return to college. The Flames clearly felt like they needed a RHD on contract in the minors.

    I’ve maintained all along that Stone will be traded at the draft. We’ll see if I’m right.

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    • cjc
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      There is a lot of scorn heaped on Gulutzan, half of it deserved, but spare some frustration for Treliving and Burke. These are the guys who they traded for or signed in the last two years:

      -Troy Brouwer
      -Curtis Lazar
      -Matt Bartkowski
      -Michael Stone
      -Travis Hamonic
      -Chris Stewart

      We’ve all been happy with the drafting that has occurred since Treliving took over, but aside from the high first rounders (Tkachuk and Bennett), that fruit has yet to ripen at the NHL level. GMing is all about what you’ve done for me lately.

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      • BlueMoonNigel
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        Good to see you declined another glass of Kool-Aid and started to look critically at Tre. When the whole picture is considered, his body of work is adequate at best. If fans here are happy with a middle of the pack club then they should be most pleased with the work of Tre.

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      • Baalzamon
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        You forgot Versteeg, Rittich, Jagr, Shore, Foo, and (somehow) Mike Smith (and Lack).

        Every GM looks bad if you ignore all the good moves he makes (and Lack)

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      • Mickey O
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        It was a 3 year deal or nothing with Stone. If he hit the open market, somebody would have thrown a 4×4 Russell type contract his way. Three years was the shortest he would sign here, two years wouldn’t have cut it. I’m sure Stone and is agent have seen the way Andersson is playing and the writing is on the wall. Treliving will likely ask him for his no-trade list, then it will be obvious that the team wants to make room for Andersson. Stone might agree to any trade if he feels he won’t have a long term future here.

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    • T&A4Flames
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      I believed the same thing regarding Dtine at the draft, since w he was signed to that deal. It was just a move BT made to ensure they had depth at D and in case Andersson wasn’t ready.

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  • Cheeky
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    Cheers for the updates Christian, always look forward to these posts.

    With Mangi out for rest of season, we will see who steps up. Shinkaruk and Poirier you 2 are next up, let’s see if you still have it…

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  • Big jim
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    Kyligton still very weak on defense and it’s hard for him to handle second line offense of players in the ahl never could do it in the NHL at least not yet

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  • PrairieStew
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    Brett Pollock a late bloomer ? I guess that’s accurate – turning 22 this week. He progressed upwards through all 4 years of Junior, despite the fact that his team(Oil Kings) got worse. Started his first year pro in the ECHL last year, and has worked his way into a full time AHL role this year. More like steady progress I’d say.

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  • Jobu
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    FLAMESNATION – There is something wrong with your website. Pages are freezing after a couple minutes of being at rest. Probably has something to do with that Mobile-embedded redirect script that you still haven’t fixed yet either.

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  • Misterbator
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    Can I get someone’s thoughts on Gawdin? Judging from how he has shredded the WHL this year, I find it odd that no one seems to notice. I know he’s 20 but come on. A C/RW who is currently second in league scoring trailing by a point with fewer games played.

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