152Elias Lindholm
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Rumour: Flames talking to Carolina about Elias Lindholm

The National Hockey League’s 31 clubs have gathered in Dallas, Texas for the 2018 NHL Draft. Since all the hockey operations staffs are in the same city at the same time, there’s bound to be trade rumours that pop up. Our friends at TSN revealed a doozy of a rumour involving the Calgary Flames and the Carolina Hurricanes, with the Flames reportedly considering a swap for Elias Lindholm.

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Lindholm, 23, will be a restricted free agent on July 1. He’s best known as the player that was drafted immediately before Calgary’s goal-scoring machine Sean Monahan in 2013. It probably won’t shock you to discover that the Flames – figuring they’d get either Lindholm or Monahan – scouted the heck out of Lindholm. He’s a two-way forward (who plays center and the wing) that’s more of a distributor than a shooter, but he could potentially complement Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau quite nicely. He’s been a perennial 40-45 point scorer, which probably means he gets a similar cap hit as Max Domi just did ($3.15 million) if he signs for a similar length of time.

In the TSN segment, Pierre Lebrun speculates that the Flames would send Dougie Hamilton to Carolina and potentially this could be part of a larger transaction. The big question here is what else would be coming back, because swapping out Hamilton without replacing him with somebody of similar stature – and there aren’t many of those – would be quite dumb.

(And I’m not wholly convinced that Hamilton would be moving, because of course the first player you’d ask the Flames to send you for anything is Hamilton.)

Swap out Hamilton, and Calgary’s three defensive pairings become some combination of:

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  • Mark Giordano & TJ Brodie
  • Juuso Valimaki & Travis Hamonic
  • Brett Kulak & Michael Stone
  • Rasmus Andersson

And all due respect to Brodie, but he’s struggled on the second pairing for the past two seasons. It really wouldn’t make sense to bump him up to the top pairing, no matter how impressive Valimaki has been as a junior player.

It’s an interesting proposition, though, as the right-handed Swedish forward sure would fit the Flames’ needs. We’ll have more on this – and all the wacky rumours that pop up this weekend – as draft weekend continues.

  • BlueMoonNigel

    No way do the Canes deal Lindholm and Hanafin for Hamilton. That’s an overpay for the Canes. Lindholm and Jake Bean plus spare parts and a draft picks.

    As to why the Flames would trade Dougie, I reported weeks ago that Hamilton hates the direction the team is moving in following the firing of Gully and the hiring of that ape Billy Peters. Hamilton wants outta here. Let’s watch Tre botch the trade of his most precious bauble.

  • SouthernFlame

    You could mix and match the 4th line with Hath and Frolik or whoever earns it. Is Versteeg worth signing again?

  • BlueMoonNigel

    To Calgary:

    Elias Lindholm
    Noel Hanafin
    2nd overall pick
    Scotty Darling
    Jake Bean

    To Carolina:

    Dougie Hamilton
    Sam Bennett
    Troy Brouwer
    Adam Fox

    Talent for talent, bum for bum and future for future. Mr. Moon’s big trade has it all. That’s the kind of trade that made Fletcher legend and Riser the worst GM in Flames’ folklore. Flame fans would be over the moon with Mr. Moon’s marvellous and magnificent move.

  • Christopher Rogers

    My guess it will be Hamilton for Lindholm and Carolinas second overall pick. The flames have depth on defense coming and Hamilton is kind of a softie.

  • MDG1600

    Wow, wish I had some of the FN quotes about Hamilton after last years playoff loss to Anaheim. Everyone wanted him run out of town. Now FN thinks he is the second coming of Paul Coffey. Clearly he is better than everyone thought he was 2 years ago but don’t hold your breath waiting for him to get nominated for a Norris trophy. I’d make the trade if it was Hamilton for Lindholm and the 2nd overall.

    • supra steve

      “I’d make the trade if it was Hamilton for Lindholm and the second overall.”

      Well….yeah! Who wouldn’t. Last year, reports said ARI refused moving OEL for the Auston Matthews pick. I expect they would have said yes if it was Matthews plus Nylander…which is more like the Hamilton for #2 overall plus Lindholm.
      No idea if there’s any meat on this bone, but it’s fun to consider.

      • SmellOfVictory

        I don’t think the return is really comparable. Matthews is a full step up on Svechnikov (maybe two), and Nylander is a full step up on Lindholm (maybe two). Svechnikov and Lindholm combined don’t have the value that Matthews does alone, much less with Nylander included.

        • supra steve

          Perhaps you knew exactly what Matthews was going to be at the NHL level but a lot of the rest of us did not at the time the trade was proposed. We all did know what OEL was though. So either way it would be a young first pairing star D man for a top draft pick and a young high skill NHLer with loads of potential. That was my intended comparison. As for Svechnikov, time will tell what he will become to the club that calls his name tomorrow.

  • rhyno 365

    If anything I can see Bennet and Ferland or Bennet and Hathaway for Lindholm and the rights to Derek Ryan. It was reported earlier that Carolina wants to be harder to play against so adding players with skill and some grit would make sense. Bennet plays with skill and some grit. He was one of the better players in our last playoff series 2 years ago, A change of scenery might be all he needs to get going. From what I have read Lindholm hasn’t held up either to the high expectations they thought he was going to do as he was drafted 5th overall. His point totals are pretty similar to Bennet nothing that blows you away. Monahan has way more points than Lindholm and he was drafted right after him. Hathaway plays with grit and so does Ferland. It has been reported that the flames/Peters loves Ryan so I could see them swing something and then sign them both. Also there is a the fact that Lindholm is a RW/Centre that shoots right. We dont have many right shooting forwards in the organization, Peters also knows Lindholm very well so I can definitely see a deal going down. It wont be Hamilton they would obviously say that cause its the biggest name on the flames that everyone wants to talk about when it comes to a trade. This is basically going to be a change of scenery trade on both sides with a few extras thrown in.

    • Atomic Clown

      50 points from a dman for 40 points from a winger. I’ll stop being a flames fan if that happens, unless there’s 5 first round picks packaged with Lindholm. I hear the jets have some nice jerseys…

      • buts

        See you later in another jersey bud. Hamilton is getting moved…..get used to that happening. Doubt that it’s for Lindholm. I’ll drive him to the airport……wait DH was gone out of town before exit interviews started. And you think he’s a future captain. Ya right.

        • buts

          I apologize AC as I have been harsh on DH. I see so much untapped potential in him both offensively, defensively and physically. The guy could win the Norris easily if he just gave a crap. Warrener said in the winter that his give a crap meter was stuck in low. He doesn’t stick up for teammates, at crucial moments he has mental lapses. Was he misused by GG absolutely, the bottom line is we don’t know what he was like in the room, my guess is quiet, his brother was on the team for more reasons than we know. I’d love to see him on right wing for a few games ala Burns and Byuglin then throw him back on D. Regardless he gets us the biggest return and we have depth on D.

          • Atomic Clown

            If you get an offer you cannot refuse, you absolutely trade him. And I’ve never said he’s captain material. I think he’s the exact opposite, since he doesn’t have the edge or heat that someone like Gio or Tkachuk brings. I understand as fans we expect different things out of players, and that’s fine. I personally am more than happy with him if he can consistently put up 50+ points and be defensive reliable. I understand not everyone can be Doughty or Lidstrom.

    • oilcanboyd

      Toronto media hoping the Leafs could get Dougie cheap if this is what the Flames are asking…. Any rumours out of Long Island (Lou Lam) that the Flames are shopping Hamilton?

  • freethe flames

    Let’s take the emotions out of this for a moment. Would this trade make the Flames better? Hamilton had 44 points last year as did Lindholm(he has averaged @43 points the last 3 years) so a 1 for 1 deal would not work for the Flames. But if you added Hanifin who has averaged 27 points a year over his 3 seasons in the NHL and would fill part of the gap left by Hamilton leaving it is not as bad a people think. Two former 5th over all picks for a guy we paid a mid first rounder and two second rounders for does not seem to me to be a bad thing. If we got another asset with it say their second rounder or Zykov I don’t know how this would be a bad thing.

    • Jagrrrrr, baby. Yeah.

      Don’t forget that Dougie got those points without getting much PP1 time until the last 1/3 of the season. If Peters plays him on PP1 all year, he’ll smash past 44 points.

  • ALowry

    I think everyone here is hitting the nail on the head. Lindholm is a nice piece, and would help our depth, but Tre would never send Dougie away just for that. I imagine Hanafin would have to be in the conversation. I’d be thrilled if we get their #2 pick but don’t see that happening at all.
    Still curious as to why Hamilton is the one in the rumors (probably because he’s the one everyone is asking about). The only thing I can think of is maybe management has had it with his lazy dumb penalties, but let Peters coach it out of him. Or maybe Dougie is just immature and didn’t like Freddie leaving. I have no idea. It’s still slightly mind-boggling to me.

    • whysoserious

      what people are overlooking is Tre’s earlier comment about changing the culture of the dressing room in light of what transpired the last few months of the season. Could that be why DH is being shopped? that is what happened in Boston according to another GM’s insight in a matchsticksgasoline article. If we can package DH for 3 pieces that we desperately need AND improve the dressing room, you go Tre!!

  • supra steve

    With their new coach, the Flames will have excellent insight into the entire Canes roster. If they make a deal that ships out Hamilton, I’m confident they know what they are doing.
    Hamilton, the player, will be missed…but it’s sounding like his personality may not be missed. Young star player getting moved or rumoured to be moved this often, very likely that he is not a good fit in the room.