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Quips and Quotes: Flames lose to Golden Knights 2-1

The Calgary Flames lost to the Vegas Golden Knights by a 2-1 score on Wednesday night. Here are selected reactions from players and coaches following the game.

Special teams tilt the game

In a game where three goals counted, each team scored once at even strength and then a power play goal tilted things for Vegas.

Via Postmedia’s Wes Gilbertson, Flames head coach Bill Peters wasn’t thrilled with the officiating in this game.

For what it’s worth: Vegas had four power plays (two in the first, one in the second and one in the third) and generated seven shots, while the Flames had three power plays (all in the second) and generated three shots. As much as you may sympathize with Peters on the calls, the Flames didn’t do nearly as much with their special teams opportunities as Vegas did.

The disallowed goal

It’s inevitable that there’s going to be a lot of hand-wringing about the disallowed Flames goal in the first period, especially given how tight the game was. The Flames obviously weren’t thrilled with the call.

Here’s the goal again:

The officials ruled that Tkachuk’s contact at the top of the crease with the goalie stick caused Fleury to spin around – and do a barrel roll – and not be able to save Gaudreau shot. Yes, Tkachuk had position outside the crease, but the way the rule has been written and interpreted this season is that Fleury has the right to move freely within his crease without being impeded while trying to play his position.

Per the NHL Rulebook:

The overriding rationale of this rule is that a goalkeeper should have the ability to move freely within his crease without being hindered by the actions of an attacking player.

While the rules don’t explicitly specify Fleury and Tkachuk getting tangled up, Tkachuk’s presence outside the crease hindered Fleury’s ability to move freely and play the position. But it’s very much a grey area not specified within the rules, so it’s incredibly tough to properly interpret in this situation because (to be blunt) there’s nothing about this specific situation in the rules.

  • Garry T

    I have watched the replay attached ten times. On every occasion, nothing changes. Tkachuk is not in the crease at all. Fleury is on the forward edge. There is all kinds of space behind him to move freely. Yes Tkachuk is obstructing Fleury’s view but Tkachuk is fighting for time and space in an area where he needs to be to score goals. Fleury does 2 things. He uses his stick thrusting it forward at the two players, he sees a puck coming at him and with his stick hand still thrust forward makes a phenomenal save. In the interim, another puck comes at him and he does an alagator roll without his stick and almost stops a puck a split second later. He put his stick out there to move Tkachuk who was outside the crease and with both players fighting for space, the stick gets caught between the two players bodies and he has to let it go to make the first save which was cat like and then 3 seconds later almost stops the 2nd. There is fighting for space but that happened on the Vegas power play and it did not get called. The Flames have had 5 goals called back in the last seven games. It is clear that Tkachuk was outside the crease. The only reason for Fleury being encumbered is he consciously moved towards Tkachuk and really, in a spearing motion got his stick caught up between the two challengers. If you stop the first and then almost stop the second when you have put yourself out of position endeavouring to get both scrappers out of your sight line, it was your choice to do so. It is a good goal! If he stops the second puck fully instead of partially and he has a full view at that time, it is a rendition of the two best saves of the century. Peters and the Flames are getting jobbed by a system that is supposed to be fair by both parties! I would send in a challenge to replay the game! They will not let that happen but that game and the others with goals called back could cost us 2nd place and the Conference banner.
    The Flames got themselves into penalty trouble and that was a factor in the game. But this call was absolute rubbish.

  • Spider you muda&@#ker

    Terrible non goal for sure you know its bad when you here a guy like Gio voice his dislike of the call which is very uncharacteristic of him. Who is this team Im watching though? Was the first half of the season a dream or is this the real flames. Everything offensive is a struuuuuuuggle for this team since the allstar break. Time for the pp to be reworked because it is not working. This team needs to finish first place because nobody wants to see LVK in the first round theres still lots of time to turn this around GFG!

  • oddclod

    If Tkachuk interfered, Fleury doesn’t make that miraculous toe save that had him sprawled out of position for the rebound. That’s a goal.

    Two goals called back in consecutive games. This league is becoming unwatchable.

    • Derzie

      I may be in the minority, but your ‘unwatchable’ assessment rings true for me. As i get older, I am way less tolerant of crap. I’ve turned off a lot of games this year. Not worth the aggravation. The goal reversal is so bad, I cannot understanding how someone who gets paid to understand hockey can make that call. Flies in the face of the spirit of the rule. It’s the modern version of the toe in paint rule. An academic exercise that ruins the flow and integrity of hockey games. Shameful.

  • Flint

    Normally meh… but what I don’t get is Fleury made the save after the ‘interference’, so they’re saying the interference didn’t prevent Fleury from making the 1st save but instead prevented him from making the following save? Is that like delayed affect interference?

  • Korcan

    I posted this on the previous thread, but it fits better here.

    My opinion on goaltender interference: if it is not clear cut when going to review, the goal should be allowed. The NHL wants more scoring, so instead of taking 4+ minutes dissecting the minute details and splitting hairs, just make it a rule of thumb that unless it is clear cut interference, the tie goes to the scorer. Because this is getting ridiculous.

    My same opinion applies to the offside rule as well. If it is not clear cut, like in the game vs Toronto the other night (Toronto’s goal), award the decision to the scoring team. Don’t waste time checking multiple angles just to see if the blade was still making contact with the ice or not.

    Go with the spirit of the rule rather than obsessing over the letter of the rule. You are refs, not lawyers.

  • Chiz

    This is loss is not on the players. It is on @flames fan since 83, who posted this yesterday in the game day thread:

    Derek England on the first pairing. This is something we can take advantage of.

  • checkmeup

    The Hathaway call was an embarrassment to the game.At this rate it will not belong before the players start to wear there Tutu’s on the ice.Time to start finning Ref’s for bad calls.