Post-Game: Caned By The Canes

The Calgary Flames finished their second big road trip of 2014-15 with a whimper, dropping a 4-1 decision to the Carolina Hurricanes at PNC Arena in Raleigh on Monday night. The loss concludes a five-game road trip that saw the Flames go 3-2-0.

It’s a shame, too, because the Flames played a good first period and had a lot of jump, but never seemed to get their legs (or hearts) back into things after they got down by a goal in the second.

THE RUNDOWN

The Flames and Hurricanes traded goals in the first. On a power-play, David Jones notched his second in as many games off a nice set-up from Curtis Glencross. That lead didn’t last long, as Zach Boychuk beat Jonas Hiller from a weird angle to tie it up. Shots were 8-5 Calgary in the opening frame.

The Hurricanes quietly and quickly took over the game in the second period. Justin Faulk scored off a face-off on a power-play triggered by Devin Setoguchi to give Carolina the lead. The game went back and forth – mostly in the Flames zone – until Jeff Skinner one-timed home his 100th career goal mid-way through the frame to make it 3-1. That was basically the dagger, and it was set up by Brandon Bollig biffing it in the neutral zone and giving the Hurricanes a rush with numbers on their side. Shots were 14-10 Carolina.

Tim Gleason scored the lone goal in the third period after a lazy clearing attempt by Jiri Hudler. The Flames never really pressed in the third and looked out of gas. Shots were 12-5 Carolina.

WHY THE FLAMES LOST

They let the Hurricanes dictate the game, especially in the second and third periods. The traditional late-game jump that we’ve become so accustomed to seeing in the last few games was absent. Call it fatigue, but outside of the first 20 minutes the Calgary Flames didn’t show much.

RED WARRIOR

David Jones scored the lone goal and continued to have some jump in his game. He gets the nod.

SCORING CHANCES

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Team Period Time Note Home Away State
Away 1 18:40 Reinhart 6 12 28 30 53 65 1 5 22 29 32 59 5v5
Home 1 17:05 Sekera 4 14 16 20 27 30 1 4 6 19 20 23 5v5
Away 1 15:56 Bouma 6 18 22 30 39 44 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Away 1 12:24 Reinhart 18 22 26 30 39 65 1 4 6 22 32 59 5v5
Home 1 9:42 Gerbe 6 14 16 20 30 44 1 15 17 29 32 59 5v5
Away 1 6:54 Jones goal 4 18 27 30 39 1 5 7 19 20 23 4v5
Home 1 6:19 Liles 19 25 26 30 49 65 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Home 1 5:35 Gerbe 4 14 16 20 27 30 1 5 7 22 32 59 5v5
Home 1 4:47 Terry 6 19 25 30 44 49 1 15 19 20 23 29 5v5
Home 1 3:56 Liles 12 26 28 30 53 65 1 5 7 13 24 60 5v5
Home 1 3:55 Skinner 12 26 28 30 53 65 1 5 7 13 24 60 5v5
Away 2 19:21 Jones 16 19 20 26 30 65 1 4 6 19 20 23 5v5
Away 2 18:15 Hudler 19 25 26 30 49 65 1 13 15 24 29 60 5v5
Away 2 17:13 Brodie 12 26 28 30 53 65 1 5 7 17 32 59 5v5
Home 2 16:45 Gerbe 6 14 16 20 30 44 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Home 2 14:31 Nash 4 14 16 20 27 30 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Away 2 13:32 Hudler tip 4 12 22 27 30 49 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Away 2 13:01 Bouma tip 19 20 26 30 39 65 1 4 6 17 25 86 5v5
Home 2 10:38 Staal 4 12 22 30 49 65 1 15 19 20 23 29 5v5
Home 2 7:46 Skinner goal 4 18 27 28 30 53 1 5 7 22 25 59 5v5
Away 2 5:31 Setoguchi 18 26 28 30 53 65 1 4 6 17 22 86 5v5
Home 2 1:49 McClement kick 6 18 28 30 44 53 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Away 3 18:33 Glencross tip 14 16 20 27 30 65 1 4 6 20 24 32 5v5
Home 3 16:34 Skinner 18 26 28 30 53 65 1 13 15 19 23 29 5v5
Home 3 16:32 McClement 18 26 28 30 53 65 1 13 15 19 23 29 5v5
Away 3 13:41 Jooris 14 16 20 26 30 65 1 15 17 29 60 86 5v5
Away 3 12:50 Hudler 6 18 28 30 44 53 1 4 6 20 23 24 5v5
Home 3 10:50 Gleason goal 4 12 22 27 30 49 1 13 15 19 23 29 5v5
Away 3 7:15 Granlund 14 20 26 30 49 65 1 7 15 19 59 60 5v5
Home 3 6:19 Skinner 18 27 28 30 44 53 1 4 22 23 24 29 5v5
Home 3 6:18 Semin 4 18 27 28 30 53 1 4 22 23 24 29 5v5
Home 3 4:57 Staal tip 4 12 27 28 30 53 1 5 7 17 60 5v4
Home 3 3:46 Terry 18 19 25 30 44 65 1 4 6 20 24 60 5v5
Home 3 2:55 Staal 12 22 26 30 49 65 1 13 15 19 23 29 5v5
# Player EV PP SH
1 HILLER, JONAS   13 19   1 0   0 1
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 20:22 7 6 00:38 0 0 00:07 0 0
5 GIORDANO, MARK 18:59 2 5 00:31 1 0 02:37 0 1
6 WIDEMAN, DENNIS 20:24 7 4 00:38 0 0 00:14 0 0
7 BRODIE, TJ 19:42 2 5 00:31 1 0 02:37 0 1
13 GAUDREAU, JOHNNY 15:58 2 8 00:38 0 0 00:00 0 0
15 SMID, LADISLAV 15:32 4 8 00:00 0 0 01:20 0 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 13:06 5 2 00:00 0 0 01:48 0 1
19 JONES, DAVID 15:46 2 8 00:31 1 0 00:34 0 0
20 GLENCROSS, CURTIS 16:51 3 5 00:31 1 0 00:00 0 0
22 SETOGUCHI, DEVIN 09:28 3 4 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
23 MONAHAN, SEAN 16:08 2 10 00:31 1 0 01:20 0 0
24 HUDLER, JIRI 17:22 4 7 00:38 0 0 00:07 0 0
25 BOLLIG, BRANDON 08:45 2 2 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
29 ENGELLAND, DERYK 14:41 4 10 00:00 0 0 01:13 0 0
32 BYRON, PAUL 13:12 4 2 00:00 0 0 01:42 0 0
59 REINHART, MAX 10:52 4 3 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
60 GRANLUND, MARKUS 14:41 4 5 00:00 0 0 00:34 0 1
86 JOORIS, JOSH 12:06 4 1 00:38 0 0 02:03 0 0
Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 4 7 3 7 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 6 5 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 4 8 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0

ZONE ENTRIES

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SUM IT UP

The Flames return home somewhat disappointed from the final game of their trip, but ultimately probably pretty satisfied as they have a record north of .500 both on this trip (3-2-0) and overall (9-6-2). They have a couple days to rest up before getting back into action with their first game of the season against the newly-renamed Arizona Coyotes. That goes Thursday night at 7pm MT at the Scotiabank Saddledome.

  • ChinookArchYYC

    What we learned last night: the Canes are a better team than the Oilers. Their terrible start to the year will make it tough for a playoff spot, but are not a top 5 lottery team. The oilers are playing with zero confidence, and no heart. That team is lottery bound.

    I’ve enjoyed the Flames wins with the heart, but head still believes a correction is soon come. It’s year two of the rebuild, so it’s a reality that I can bear. And look on the bright side, Edmonton is there right with us.

  • RedMan

    Game was a stinker, as he good guys definitely lost the steam in the 2nd and 3rd, but David Jones definitely stood out in a good way. If he can keep this up, he may even get out of the dog house!

  • MWflames

    I didn’t watch the game, so I don’t know out setoguchi did, but if the canadiens can waive bourque then we can waive setoguchi. Why is he playing?

    Just getting a healthy backlund back into our lineup will be huge for this team. They could use a rest too, they’ve played a lot to start the year.

  • RKD

    Full credit to the Canes, they were a lot better than the last time we played them. Faulk had a monster of a game. Seto was a minus 2 and his penalty led directly to a Canes goal. Please waive this guy. There will be tough nights like these.

  • prendrefeu

    With games like this, does BT make observations and take lessons from things? Perhaps it’s better to foster the growth of this team through scouting, drafting and development than making stop gap measures – such as Seto – to fill up gaps. Surely there may be opportunities for good trades in the season, but it’s fairly clear that Seto (as an example) was not a good signing, and it may have been better to put further emphasis on the development (and, on the chain from that, further growth) of what the team currently has in its system .

    • Setoguchi was a cheap, low-risk, moderate reward signing. There was always a partial chance he would end up being passed by a kid and waived. At $800k for 1 year, it’s not much of a loss.

      The more pertinent mistakes – the ones management should take note of – are Bollig and Engelland, who just got eaten alive against the Canes. Together, they will cost the Flames $4.22M this year. Bollig was acquired with a 3rd round pick to boot. They’re also both signed for the next 2 seasons beyond this one.

        • supra steve

          But then you have to consider what his goal was. Did he expect to challenge for the playoffs this year, or was he wanting to not improve a lot this season and get that coveted high pick in the 2015 draft?

          I can’t tell you I know the answer. I can tell you I was not a fan of the Engelland signing. Bollig may not be a great 4th liner, but if he wasn’t playing a regular shift then McGrattan probably would be, so I score that one as an improvement. Seto was worth a try for the low $$ and term.
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          • supra steve

            I’m a fan of BB & BT. In my view BT was brought in for his drafting expertise and that is where I will judge him in a few years. Fans can say what they want about BB but he will prove to be a valuable mentor for BT before he sails into the sunset.

            Bolig is an improvement over McGratts as he can play the game better and can protect his team mates as well. Seto was low risk and may still turn out OK.

            I see this rebuild as a 3-5 year process and we are still early. I hope fans can be patient with the gap players as we have a nice talent crop developing. The immediate focus area that is obvious is the defence and I see BT swapping 1-2 high end forward prospects for similar ‘D’ prospects.

            Regardless of where Flames finish in the standings this season the 2015 draft will be critical for the Flames.!

          • supra steve

            If that’s the case, then I really hope that BT had very little input in the Coyotes’ draft, because any objective look at it shows it to be mediocre at best during his tenure.

          • supra steve

            I believe the Coyote’s draft and most definitely winning record BT was a huge factor. I really don’t have the time to go back and evaluate his draft record but I think you will find it was very successful despite what you say.

            Please provide data and would be happy to discuss.

          • prendrefeu

            This doesn’t make much sense. If you haven’t gone back and evaluated his draft record what is your positive belief based on and why should we spoon feed you data? The Coyotes drafts have been mediocre at best and BT’s performance at this year’s draft for the Flames (other than Bennett) appears mediocre (especially when you factor in the Bollig trade). When hired, his draft acumen wasn’t touted as a major asset. Rather it was more about BT having strong experience in most parts of the Coyotes organization (including running their farm team) and learning from a well respected GM (Malony).

          • Big Ell

            2004 – 1 – Wheeler, 9 – Winnik

            2005 – 1 – Hanzal, 4 – Yandle

            2006 – 1 – Mueller

            2007 – 1 – Turris

            2008 – 1 – Boedeker

            2009 – 1 – OLE

            2010 – 1 – Gormley

            2011 – 1 – Connor Murphy

            2012 – 1 – Samuelsson

            2013 – 1 – Domi

            I would say the Coyotes did fairly well but like Kenta said I am not sure how much input he had as he was also the GM of their minor league team.

        • prendrefeu

          I’d put it more at 50%, but it is his first year here/there in Calgary (I am not in Calgary).

          My post was not necessarily to lay blame, I believe that any person in a management position should be given some time to both establish a method and learn/adapt as things unfold, and with that BT is very relatively new to the organization that is the Calgary Flames.

          I simply posited a question – if he is paying attention to the affects of some of the poor signings – and with that a hope that it may alter the approach he is taking with the organization.

          Of course, this is simply one remote fan’s perspective, and for all I or anyone not working with him know(s) he may already have an effective masterplan in place that has taken into account the poor performances of two of this summer’s signings along with how our prospects pool has turned out (notably a stacked cupboard that did not require year-after-year of top ranked draftees).

  • supra steve

    A lot of griping about Setogouchi when the fact is – if Flames didn’t have so many injuries he wouldn’t be dressed. The reality is any of us would take a low risk shot on Seto as a GM.

    • Avalain

      I think this is a point that people need to consider. I remember that everyone was upset back when Seto was chosen for the team over Sven, but then Seto was a healthy scratch to start the season. No one would have thought that Sven was a good candidate to sit in the press box every night.

  • RealMcHockeyReturns

    Flames ran out of gas, oh well. Too early to say if any signings are great or not, but at least Raymond and Hiller look good to date, neutral on others due to low amount of data and lack of ESP into Flames management’s brain on mid to long-term plans.