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Brad Treliving loves trading first round picks

In the National Hockey League, every general manager has their own tendencies and quirks. Some make lots of trades. Some never make trades at all. Calgary Flames general manager Brad Treliving seems to love trades involving first round draft picks.

A week or two back, the Flames traded 2013 first round pick Morgan Klimchuk to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Andrew Nielsen. That swap was the ninth that Treliving has made involving either a future first round pick or a player originally drafted with a first round pick.

A brief history of Treliving trading firsts

  • March 1, 2015: 2011 first round pick Sven Baertschi to Vancouver for 2015 second round pick (used to select Rasmus Andersson).
  • June 26, 2015: 2015 first round pick, along with two 2015 second round picks, to Boston for 2011 first round pick Dougie Hamilton.
  • Feb. 22, 2016: Markus Granlund to Vancouver for 2013 first round pick Hunter Shinkaruk.
  • March 1, 2016: Jyrki Jokipakka and 2016 second round pick to Ottawa for 2013 first round pick Curtis Lazar and Michael Kostka.
  • June 24, 2017: 2018 first round pick, 2018 second round pick and 2019 second round pick to NY Islanders for Travis Hamonic and 2019 fourth round pick.
  • June 29, 2017: Keegan Kanzig and 2019 sixth round pick to Carolina for 2011 first round pick Ryan Murphy, Eddie Lack and 2019 seventh round pick.
  • June 23, 2018: 2011 first round pick Dougie Hamilton, Micheal Ferland and Adam Fox to Carolina for 2013 first round pick Elias Lindholm and 2015 first round pick Noah Hanifin.
  • Aug. 20, 2018: 2013 first round pick Hunter Shinkaruk to Montreal for 2013 first round pick Kerby Rychel.
  • Nov. 27, 2018: 2013 first round pick Morgan Klimchuk to Toronto for Andrew Nielsen.

The balance sheet

In his time in Calgary, Treliving’s staff has drafted three players in the first round: Sam Bennett in 2014, Matthew Tkachuk in 2016 and Juuso Valimaki in 2017.

They’ve also acquired seven past first round selections: 2011 (Dougie Hamilton, Ryan Murphy), 2013 (Hunter Shinkaruk, Curtis Lazar, Elias Lindholm, Kerby Rychel) and 2015 (Noah Hanifin). Murphy arguably shouldn’t count, as he was acquired and then immediately bought out.

They’ve also traded away four past first round selections and two future first round picks: 2011 (Sven Baertschi, Dougie Hamilton), 2013 (Hunter Shinkaruk, Morgan Klimchuk), 2015 (future) and 2018 (future).

On the whole, if you exclude the Murphy acquisition due to the buyout, Treliving’s swaps have broken even in terms of first round picks. He’s acquired as many as he’s traded away, though he seems to be collecting 2013 picks, three of which are still with the organization. His trades to send past first rounders out of town were “punting moves” to garner future assets, while the swaps of future picks were made to add NHL bodies to his roster.



  • freethe flames

    So the question is should BT trade next years 1st rounder for a player that will have an immediate impact on this teams chances of making the playoffs and making a run at the cup. Personally I hope he does not lose another first rounder; at some point he needs to start rebuilding the farm. (Things would look a lot different if some of the Euro’s were playing in the AHL; we would have a clearer read on them.)

    Lot’s of rumours out there about guys being available.

  • buts

    Better not this year as the draft class in june is very, very deep. Also there isn’t much left on the farm as far as top notch prospects. Acquiring more picks should be the desire if possible.

  • Cfan in Van

    Huh.
    Speaking of Ferland, it sounds like his most recent concussion was picked up throwing hits against Montreal. He could become far less effective if he significantly changes his game, which I think has been toned down since his first couple of seasons. I always hope for the best with that guy, but the optics of that trade just keep improving.

  • MDG1600

    The Flames scouts have done a good job the last few years with Valimaaki, Andersson, Mangiapane, Dube and probably a few others I am forgetting. The organization should build on their drafting success by holding on to 1st rounders. UFA’s on the other hand are proving to be an obstacle gobbling up cap space and providing no on ice production.

    • Toma41

      We need some legit top 6 forwards. Neal is a flop. Janko and Bennett don’t look like they will be top 6 material. Czarnik isnt. Ryan never was. Dube and Mangiapane look like they can’t score at the NHL level(although small sample size) Backlund should be moved to 3rd line shut down centre. Let’s face it, you can only get lucky by picking a Johnny gaudreau in later rounds so many times.

        • Cfan in Van

          Agree, and I’d say the same about Mang too. That said, if we’re only looking at the immediate situation (aside from the next 1-2 years of development) it appear to me they could use a bit of help, offensively.
          My Neal optimism is definitely fading hard, and have no idea how Czarnik is going to provide value from what we’ve seen. I think Ryan is an OK addition around the bottom of the roster, as he can play a few different roles.

          • The Doctor

            I could see Mangi going in a number of directions. He’s clearly got high end offensive ability, but he still gets outmuscled and knocked off pucks a bit too much.

          • mrroonie

            What perceived value are you looking for from Czarnik? His goals/60 (0.58) and points/60 (1.44) are higher than they were in his time with Boston (0.40, 1.37). It’s hard to rack up the points when you only get into 19 of 30 games and average less than 11 minutes per. He was brought in for depth, not to suddenly become a top 6 scorer.

          • Cfan in Van

            Mr.Roonie, I guess value isn’t really the right word, as he’s only on a 1.2M contract. He’s not getting used very much, and we’ve already got some tweeners in the line-up in the form of call-ups. Everyone else on a one-way contract seems to have a defined roll (or two), but Czarnik is the one who seems to be lost in the shuffle. Off-season addition (cap + roster spot), but not providing anything, regardless of who’s to blame.

      • Redleader

        Yet there First in the west with 4 players on pace for 82 plus points. Not everyone on the team can put up those numbers, if so Flames would be easily in first and breaking NHL records.

        • Cfan in Van

          Sorry Carl, it’s early, but I’m already in playoff mode. I love the start that the team has had, but those 4 players are Line#1 plus Chucky. Being top-heavy makes an easy target for teams with experienced shut-down lines. We seem like we’re 1 Productive Neal, or 1 Productive Bennet + Semi-Productive Backs away from a nicely spread out offensive threat.
          Don’t get me wrong, I love the wins, and the progress this team has realized, but I still see some important holes to be filled. Not that I expect any big trades, just hope we can take care of it internally.

  • Alan Trammel

    Loving that Baertschi for (what turned out to be) Andersson trade.

    And I would look this up myself if I had more time but does anybody know how the picks that NYI got for Hamonic are trending?

    • tank_06

      Dobson at first doesn’t seem to be doing great. 16 points in 28. However he is on a bs team. Leading his team in scoring with that.

      Iskhakov is.5 points per game in a weaker college League.

      I think they still have one more second in either 19 or 20

  • The GRAND BALLSUCKER

    Trades are hit and miss. Some have gone in favor of the Flames others not so much. Personally I am all for trading late first round picks for proven NHL talent.

  • Pete_R

    We’ve got a great group of 20-25 year olds, I hope they keep more picks going forward. Would be nice to have another crop coming up, and I don’t see this group needing to bring in more vets to insulate them, they’re rolling great on their own!

  • Jobu

    Amassing a bunch of 2013 picks + the fact that our team is peaking 5 years later… coincidence?
    Jobu is surprised other GMs haven’t followed a similar pattern (or maybe they are and Jobu just hasn’t noticed).

  • Jumping Jack Flash

    I can’t believe Mangi has yet to register a NHL point yet…I think the dam will break once he gets his first. He plays well with Janko but they spend too much time trying to set up Neal…they need to be more selfish.

    I don’t think moving Bennett to the fourth line sends the right message, he was one of the better players against the Oilers but is not going to be a point producer at the NHL. He is our version of Cogliano…so best to accept it. You need this player to win a championship.

        • Cfan in Van

          I hoped and prayed that Mony had an injury last season, but that idea was certainly challenged when they trotted him out game after game… I’d just didn’t seem possible that he devolved into a shell of his former self. Huh, turns out he had four. Eye test confirmed.

  • Heeeeere’s Johnny

    My thoughts on each:

    o March 1, 2015: 2011 first round pick Sven Baertschi to Vancouver for 2015 second round pick (used to select Rasmus Andersson).

    Turns out to be a good win for BT.

    o June 26, 2015: 2015 first round pick, along with two 2015 second round picks, to Boston for 2011 first round pick Dougie Hamilton.

    Tough one to truly figure out but I think it turns out well. It really is a 1st, 2 2nds, Ferland and Fox for Hanifin and Lindholm. I know I would trade a first and Ferland for Lindholm. And I’m pretty sure I would trade 2 2nds and Fox for Hanifin. Fox is hard to factor in as he wouldn’t have played for us anyway. I’ve decided … definite win for BT.

    oFeb. 22, 2016: Markus Granlund to Vancouver for 2013 first round pick Hunter Shinkaruk.

    This one turns out to be Grandlund for Rychel. Meh. I don’t think Grandlund makes the Flames this year either.

    o March 1, 2016: Jyrki Jokipakka and 2016 second round pick to Ottawa for 2013 first round pick Curtis Lazar and Michael Kostka.

    This is the worst trade BT has made. If this is the worst he ever does then I can live with that.
    o June 24, 2017: 2018 first round pick, 2018 second round pick and 2019 second round pick to NY Islanders for Travis Hamonic and 2019 fourth round pick.

    It’s hard to argue with what Hamonic brings now that he has settled in. But so far this is Hamonic for Noah Dobson and Ruslan Ishakov (?) with a 2nd to NYI and a 4th coming back this year. Dobson could be a stud but we get Hamonic now. Call it a draw.
    o June 29, 2017: Keegan Kanzig and 2019 sixth round pick to Carolina for 2011 first round pick Ryan Murphy, Eddie Lack and 2019 seventh round pick.

    Meh. Just meh.
    o June 23, 2018: 2011 first round pick Dougie Hamilton, Micheal Ferland and Adam Fox to Carolina for 2013 first round pick Elias Lindholm and 2015 first round pick Noah Hanifin.

    See above. Overall we win.
    o Aug. 20, 2018: 2013 first round pick Hunter Shinkaruk to Montreal for 2013 first round pick Kerby Rychel.

    Just depth but so far I think we win.

    o Nov. 27, 2018: 2013 first round pick Morgan Klimchuk to Toronto for Andrew Nielsen.

    More meh.

  • Jumping Jack Flash

    I can’t wrap me head around BP’s reluctance to move Janko into Backlund’s 2C spot. He is the most creative option to bring out Tkachuk’s 5v5 offence. They clearly like playing together. Janko is clearly one of the best defensive players as indicated by his stellar PK record.

    This is the opportunity to move Janko who many expect to replace Backlund in a few years. I don’t see Ryan being the answer.

    • Toma41

      Cheers 100 times. I’ve said it since day 1….31 year old Derek Ryan who is nothing more than a 3rd liner at best, is being forced over 25 year old janko who has been in the flames system since 18 years of age. Ryan is not the answer. Janko might not be either, but without giving him a chance, we will never find out.

    • R4anders

      The puck dies on Jankowski’s stick time and time again. He’s constantly bodied off pucks even though he’s usually amongst the biggest guys on the ice. He’s getting better but….

      With backs being out I think they might move Lindholm to centre that line, the issues then becomes who gets the top line minutes, is it Neal in the hopes he gets going? Mangiapane? Bennett?

      • Jumping Jack Flash

        I don’t find that to be the case at all. Janko points do not reflect how he has been playing lately. Look at who his linemates have been Bennett and Neal are snake bit but Janko has given them passes on a platter. Janko has his flaws but he creates offense and with capable wingers it will show.

      • Luter 1

        Are u sure you’re not talking Neal? Guaranteed to happen every time he handles the puck. Jankowski coming on, nice addition to PK, just
        needs to get more shots, has one of the better shots on the team if h3 gets it away

  • Korcan

    Imo Peters’ reluctance to put Janko on the 2nd line probably is due to his inconsistency. When he’s feeling it, Jankowski displays a much higher talent level than does Ryan, but he is maddenly inconsistent. At least with Ryan, Peters knows what he has and knows he is going to be the same guy game in and game out.

    Right now Mark Jankowski is the only thing holding Mark Jankowski back. To use that already overused cliche, he needs to realize the NHL is an “everyday league”. Until he does, he will continue to be deployed in the bottom six, and, unlike Bennett who is still young and brings other intangibles, Jankowski is a skill player only and should be in the prime of his career yet isn’t playing like it. If he doesn’t figure it out soon i see Janko as being a prime trade piece in bringing in a key “missing piece” (i.e. Wayne Simmonds) for a Flames playoff run.

    • Jumping Jack Flash

      It is hard to argue with that but BP would be pleasantly surprised if he through him a bone. I think Jankowski feels he deserves a chance on the second line especially with Backlund out. I would love to hear from posters that have watched him practice…perhaps that is the reason for the lack of trust.

  • First Name Unidentified

    Wow that Baertschi for Andersson turned out amazing in hindsight.
    Upon thinking, our LD is super clogged right now. Gio, Hanifin, Valimaki and Kyllington. Someone’s gotta give, no? Even in the right side, what happens when Stoney is healthy? There’s gotta be some truth to the rumor.

    • Cfan in Van

      In reality, stone may not even play this year. And who are we willing to give up in the near future with both vali (mid term) and stone (long term) out of the lineup? If there’s a trade, I doubt it involves one of our D.