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Since Brian Burke has taken over and emphasized a need to get bigger, the Flames fan base has mixed reviews on whether or not they are on board with this notion. With this in mind and after a recent request from FN reader Matthew Kutarna, we’re going to have a look at size as it relates to impact players.
Kent talked at great length about the issue of "getting bigger" yesterday. A sticking point of the article is that teams should not be getting bigger for the sake of getting bigger. Rather, teams should be focused on getting skilled rather than bigger and not the other way around. If the skill comes with size that’s an obvious double threat that any fan would welcome with open arms.
Jonathan Willis looked at size and impact in last year’s playoffs . He composed an average weighted size for each playoff team. The average was based on the height and weight of every skater on the team, adjusted for their ice-times. For instance, a player that played 20 minutes per 60 minutes would be weighted double the amount of a player who plays 10 minutes per 60 minutes. With this method, we can get a better idea of which teams are actually bigger as it controls for the 4 minute face punchers a team might employ on their bottom lines. Having these nearly irrelevant hockey players boosting a team’s average size gives an incomplete picture of "size" on a hockey team.
Based on Willis’ method, lets have a look at team size, based on deployment, for the mid-way mark of the 2013-14 season.
THE NUMBERS
Team | Height (Inches) | Weight (Pounds) | Points | Place |
Sabres | 73.95 | 193 | 19 | 30 |
Jets | 73.94 | 205 | 35 | 20 |
Bruins | 73.76 | 200 | 48 | 5 |
Senators | 73.61 | 202 | 34 | 21 |
Maple Leafs | 73.52 | 201 | 37 | 16 |
Predators | 73.47 | 203 | 35 | 18 |
Ducks | 73.46 | 204 | 53 | 2 |
Capitals | 73.45 | 206 | 39 | 14 |
Coyotes | 73.43 | 200 | 41 | 13 |
Flyers | 73.43 | 203 | 32 | 23 |
Kings | 73.3 | 207 | 48 | 7 |
Canucks | 73.28 | 200 | 46 | 8 |
Sharks | 73.24 | 203 | 48 | 6 |
Panthers | 73.24 | 197 | 31 | 27 |
Devils | 73.16 | 202 | 32 | 24 |
Lightning | 73.08 | 197 | 43 | 12 |
Rangers | 73.05 | 200 | 33 | 22 |
Stars | 73.04 | 199 | 35 | 17 |
Avalanche | 73.01 | 203 | 45 | 9 |
Blues | 72.9 | 207 | 48 | 4 |
Blackhawks | 72.89 | 197 | 55 | 1 |
Oilers | 72.86 | 188 | 25 | 28 |
Penguins | 72.81 | 198 | 49 | 3 |
Red Wings | 72.74 | 196 | 39 | 15 |
Blue Jackets | 72.67 | 202 | 32 | 25 |
Flames | 72.61 | 196 | 31 | 26 |
Islanders | 72.53 | 198 | 25 | 29 |
Hurricanes | 72.37 | 201 | 35 | 19 |
Canadians | 71.91 | 195 | 45 | 10 |
Wild | 70.77 | 194 | 45 | 11 |
Thanks to FN reader, David Balcom, for aiding with the data collection. The chart is sorted by height (tallest to shortest). Blue indicates teams that should currently be playoff bound while pink indicates teams that shouldn’t be. Of course, the East is less than great and half the teams that are blue aren’t actually in the playoffs because they play in the West. However, many of these teams would be a sure bet for the playoffs if they played in the East so we’ll go with it.
The main thing that comes out is having above average skilled big players is not predictive of overall team success. In fact, the split is right down the middle. Half of the best teams are in the tall range and the other half of the best teams are in the shorter range. Interestingly, the Sabres are the tallest team in the league, based on their deployment, but are the lanslide winners for worst team this year. The Jets, the runner-ups for the tallest team, are a little better than the Sabres but not an elite team by any stretch.
In terms of the Flames, they are indeed one of the shorter teams in the league (5th shortest team overall with the weighted analysis). Could they get bigger? Probably. But there are shorter teams and same size teams as the Flames that are quite a bit better than the home squad. Of note, the Penguins and Blackhawks have arguably the best team assemblages of elite skill in the league and are in the bottom tier of the league in terms of size. On the other hand, the Bruins, Kings and Ducks are some of the tallest teams in the league. They are also some of the most well-rounded teams in the league. There’s clearly different recipes for success.
Next, lets look at height as it relates to offensive impact players (150 Top scorers in the current 2013-14 season) specifically. After all, the most important thing in the NHL is having guys that can score with regularity so I want to see how big scorers tend to be . With that, I also wanted to look at the proportion of offensive impact players each team has at their disposal.
Height | Top 30 Scorers | Top 150 Scorers | Goal Scorers (10+ Goals) |
Short (5’9” and Below) | 3.33% | 4.00% | 3.03% |
Average (5’10”- 6’0”) | 32.43% | 43.33% | 37.88% |
Tall (6’1”- 6’4”) | 65.86% | 49.33% | 53.03% |
Gigantic (6’5” and Above) | 0.00% | 2.67% | 1.52% |
Most of the offensive talent is in the average height to tall range with the scales tipping a little bit to the tall side. Tall players seem to make up the vast majority of the players in the truly elite category for this early season though. This is not surprising that there tends to be more tall elite/offensive impactful players. Teams are twice as likely to draft a tall player than they are an average-sized player, especially in the 1st round. It’s a numbers game. It’s encouraing that so many average size players can make an impact in the league though. An indication that size isn’t everything.
When we look further at the offensive impact players each team possesses we get a real good look at Calgary’s problem.
Team | Top 30 | Top 150 |
Avalanche | 0 | 6 |
Blackhawks | 5 | 9 |
Blue Jackets | 0 | 6 |
Blues | 2 | 8 |
Bruins | 0 | 6 |
Canadiens | 0 | 6 |
Canucks | 2 | 6 |
Capitals | 2 | 6 |
Coyotes | 0 | 8 |
Devils | 0 | 3 |
Ducks | 2 | 6 |
Flames | 1 | 1 |
Flyers | 0 | 4 |
Hurricanes | 0 | 3 |
Islanders | 1 | 4 |
Jets | 1 | 7 |
Kings | 1 | 5 |
Lightning | 1 | 6 |
Maple Leafs | 1 | 5 |
Oilers | 0 | 5 |
Panthers | 0 | 1 |
Penguins | 3 | 6 |
Predators | 0 | 2 |
Rangers | 0 | 5 |
Red Wings | 1 | 5 |
Sabres | 0 | 2 |
Senators | 2 | 5 |
Sharks | 4 | 7 |
Stars | 1 | 3 |
Wild | 0 | 4 |
Right now, at this moment, the Flames’ issue is they have very little highly impactful offensive weapons. Jiri Hudler sits 27th in league scoring and is having the season of his career. Our next closest scorer, Monahan, is at least 150 spots away. I’m not saying that Monahan won’t be one of these offensive impact players going forward. If he wasn’t injured for a while he would probably have snuck into the Top 150. I think he will be a Top 60-90 guy in a few years he’s just not there yet. However, as of right now, we only have the one offensive impact guy.
To put it into perspective, based on some earlier research I’ve done, from 1998 to 2013, teams that had 6 or more players in the Top 150 at the end of the season made the playoffs about 80% of the time. Conversely, a team with less than 3 players in the Top 150 never made the playoffs. Furthermore, teams with 3 to 4 impact players that did make the playoffs rarely made a dent in the playoffs. Exceptions being the 2012 LA Kings, the 1998 Washington Capitals and your 2004 Calgary Flames!
SUM IT UP
I am not quite sure where Brian Burke’s head is at in terms of "getting bigger". On one hand, he has a history for trading for big guys with skill (JVR, Pronger, Beauchemin, S. Neidermeyerc, etc.) but he also has an affinity for signing dancing bears to multi-year deals to fill a useless 4th line. If Burke pulls off a few trades similar to the JVR for Luke Schenn deal I’m all in. I have no qualms with adding size if that size comes highly skilled. However offensive skill, in the end, is what the Flames are in dire need of. Drafting, developing, acquiring and signing skill should be the focus of this early rebuild. If size comes with that…. so be it.