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Is Calgary’s drafting out-performing expected pick value?

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Ryan Pike
6 years ago
Drafting in the National Hockey League is in many ways a crap-shoot. Teams gawk at teenagers from afar for 12 months, chat them up here and there, and generally attempt to gather as much useful information as they possibly can. Then they choose players for seven rounds and cross their fingers that some of them turn out.
A couple years ago, TSN’s Scott Cullen conducted an examination of draft picks to determine the expected value of picks. More precisely, how likely was it that a selection would be successful? Given the expected values of the various draft picks, how well have the Flames done recently when compared to those expected values?

At a glance

For the sake of comparison, we’ve collected the draft picks made by Jay Feaster (2011-13) and Brad Treliving (2014-16) as general managers in order of their overall pick placements. Besides the usual information, we’ve included the likelihood that a player selected at that spot would hit 100 NHL games (noted as %100), as well as their NHL and AHL regular season games played with the Flames organization. (AHL games are included because I’m sympathetic to the “at least they played pro in the organization somewhere” argument for late-round picks.)
PickYearPlayer%100NHLAHL
42014Bennett85.71590
62013Monahan81.03190
62016Tkachuk81.0760
132011Baertschi (1)66.766109
212012Jankowski71.4172
222013Poirier60.08160
282013Klimchuk47.60125
342014McDonald32.401
422012Sieloff (2)39.01102
452011Granlund (3)39.08685
532015Andersson33.3154
542014Smith33.3088
542016Parsons33.300
562016Dube28.600
572011Wotherspoon28.630218
602015Kylington28.61107
642014Hickey33.300
662016Fox33.300
672013Kanzig33.309
752012Gillies26.7146
962016Lindstrom23.800
1042011Gaudreau19.02320
1052012Kulak19.030117
1242012Culkin16.5083
1262016Mattson16.500
1352013Roy16.300
1362015Karnaukhov13.300
1562016Tuulola15.600
1572013Harrison15.600
1642011Brossoit (4)15.602
1652012Gordon15.900
1662015Mangiapane15.9066
1662016Phillips15.900
1752014Ollas Mattsson15.909
1842014Carroll10.3099
1862012DeBlouw10.300
1862016Falkovsky10.300
1872013Rafikov10.300
1962015Bruce8.200
1982013Gilmour8.200
Some Notes:
  • Baertschi was traded for the pick used to select Andersson, which would bump his totals to 67 NHL games and 163 AHL games.
  • Sieloff was traded for Alex Chiasson, which would bump his totals to 82 NHL games and 102 AHL games.
  • Granlund was traded for Hunter Shinkaruk, which would bump his totals to 100 NHL games and 154 AHL games.
  • Brossoit was traded (along with Roman Horak) for Ladislav Smid and Oliver Roy; if you assign all of Smid’s games to the Brossoit pick, it would be 109 NHL games and three AHL games total.

The breakdown

Hit 100 games:
Three picks have hit 100 games without any weird qualifying statements: Sean Monahan, Sam Bennett and Johnny Gaudreau. Two of those guys are Feaster picks. If you allow for the games played by assets acquired with the player selection, then that figure bumps up to five with Markus Granlund/Hunter Shinkaruk and Laurent Brossoit/Ladislav Smid also qualifying. That means that three of the five picks made in 2011 resulted in 100+ NHL games played.
On track:
Four more selections seem like fair bets to hit 100 NHL games in the near future. Matthew Tkachuk is a lock to hit it early next season. If Rasmus Andersson cracks the Flames roster and plays 33 games, the Sven Baertschi pick hits 100 games. (If you focus on Andersson’s pick alone, he’s more of a toss-up figure.) If Alex Chiasson remains with the club, the Patrick Sieloff pick will hit 100 games next season. Finally, if Brett Kulak remains with the Flames he also seems like a safe bet to crack the NHL roster full-time and approach 100 games over the next few seasons.
Toss-up:
Four more players seem almost equally likely to make it or not right now. Mark Jankowski, Oliver Kylington and Jon Gillies have all dipped their toe into the NHL pond, but aren’t quite yet far enough along that you can pencil them into the Flames roster for awhile. Tyler Wotherspoon is in a different situation, as he’s older than Kulak (who has played as many games) and seemingly could be on his way out of the organization.
Doesn’t look good:
There are a lot of players that, based on their age and stature within the organization, don’t seem like strong bets to hit 100 NHL games. Those players are Emile Poirier, Morgan Klimchuk, Mason McDonald, Hunter Smith, Austin Carroll, Keegan Kanzig and Ryan Culkin.
Nope:
Eight players have either left the organization or headed to Europe, and therefore likely will not hit 100 NHL games anytime soon. Those players are Eric Roy, Pavel Karnaukhov, Tim Harrison, Coda Gordon, Matthew DeBlouw, Rushan Rafikov, Riley Bruce and John Gilmour.
Too soon to tell:
Finally, it’s too soon to tell how a bunch of the 2014 (Hickey and Ollas Mattsson) 2015 (Mangiapane) and 2016 picks (everybody but Tkachuk) will do.

Judging GM performances

Let’s ignore the “too soon to tell” group, for obvious reasons. That leaves 20 players to judge Feaster’s drafting and nine players to judge Treliving’s drafting.
From Feaster’s crop, four picks resulted in 100 NHL games (or more) while another three seem like solid bets. That’s a roughly 35% success rate, which seems pretty solid. Treliving’s converted one pick at 100 games so far, with another seeming like a solid bet. That’s a 22% success rate. That said, 11 of Treliving’s picks are “too soon to tell” and so that success rate could go up – maybe even by a lot.

Sum it up

Under Darryl Sutter’s regime, the Flames’ drafting was actively bad. It’s definitely improved over the past decade, to the point where they seem to hit on their first round picks with regularity. During the period we examined, they had six selections that had a 50% (or higher) chance of hitting 100 NHL games; four of ’em have hit that mark or are good bets, while a few of their later, lower-percentage picks hit that mark. They’re a far cry from the best in the league in terms of their ability to turn junior talent into pro talent, but they seem to be on their way.

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