Why hasn’t Theoren Fleury made it into the Hockey Hall of Fame?
By Ryan Pike
7 years agoIt’s Hall of Fame Induction Day today, as Sergei Makarov, Eric Lindros and Rogie Vachon join the elite group of male hockey players that have been inducted into the hallowed halls of hockeydom. Annually around this time, conversation turns to stellar National Hockey League players that are not yet in the Hall of Fame.
Most frequently mentioned by Calgary Flames followers: Theoren Fleury. Just 5’6″ and 160 pounds with his gear on, and besieged by horrible off-ice problems illustrated in his book Playing With Fire, Fleury nonetheless put together a tremendously productive professional career. So how come he’s not yet in the Hall? The short answer, it seems, is that his retirement had some awful timing given the other players who were eligible at the time.
To illustrate that, let’s look at the 27 male players that have been inducted instead of Fleury since he became eligible for induction.
Fleury’s Resume
- 1,088 points in 1,084 NHL regular season games (and 79 points in 77 playoff games).
- Won Stanley Cup.
- Also won a Canada Cup, an Olympic gold medal and a World Junior gold medal.
Fleury never won a major individual trophy in the NHL. The players inducted since he became eligible in 2009 generally have better resumes than he does for a few reasons.
- Higher points production, either due to longevity (more career points) or due to having a short, productive career (higher points-per-game).
- More Stanley Cups.
- More individual trophies.
The Breakdown
Player | Inducted | Points Per Game | Stanley Cups | Trophies |
Brett Hull | 2009 | 1.096 Longer career | 2 | 1x Lady Byng 3x Goal-Scoring Leader |
Brian Leetch | 2009 | 0.853 Longer career | 1 | 1x Conn Smythe 2x Norris 1x Calder |
Luc Robitaille | 2009 | 0.974 Longer career | 1 | 1x Calder |
Steve Yzerman | 2009 | 1.159 Longer career | 3 | 1x Masterton 1x Selke 1x Conn Smythe |
Dino Ciccarelli | 2010 | 0.974 Longer career | 0 | None |
Ed Belfour | 2011 | n/a | 0 | 1x Calder 2x Vezina 4x Jennings |
Doug Gilmour | 2011 | 0.959 Longer career | 1 | 1x Selke |
Mark Howe | 2011 | 0.920 Longer career | 0 | None |
Joe Nieuwendyk | 2011 | 0.895 Longer career | 3 | 1x Calder 1x Conn Smythe 1x King Clancy |
Pavel Bure | 2012 | 1.100 Shorter career | 0 | 1x Calder 3x Goal-Scoring Leader |
Adam Oates | 2012 | 1.062 Longer career | 0 | None |
Joe Sakic | 2012 | 1.191 Longer career | 2 | 1x Hart 1x Lady Byng 1x Conn Smythe |
Mats Sundin | 2012 | 1.002 Longer career | 0 | None |
Chris Chelios | 2013 | 0.574 Longer career | 3 | 3x Norris |
Scott Niedermayer | 2013 | 0.586 Longer career | 4 | 1x Norris 1x Conn Smythe |
Brendan Shanahan | 2013 | 0.888 Longer career | 3 | 1x King Clancy |
Rob Blake | 2014 | 0.612 Longer career | 1 | 1x Norris |
Peter Forsberg | 2014 | 1.250 Shorter career | 2 | 1x Calder 1x Hart 1x Art Ross |
Dominik Hasek | 2014 | n/a | 2 | 6x Vezina 2x Jennings 2x Hart |
Mike Modano | 2014 | 0.917 Longer career | 1 | None |
Sergei Fedorov | 2015 | 0.945 Longer career | 3 | 2x Selke 1x Hart |
Phil Housley | 2015 | 0.824 Longer career | 0 | None |
Nicklas Lidstrom | 2015 | 0.730 Longer career | 4 | 7x Norris 1x Conn Smythe |
Chris Pronger | 2015 | 0.598 Longer career | 1 | 1x Norris 1x Hart |
Eric Lindros | 2016 | 1.138 Shorter career | 0 | 1x Hart |
Sergei Makarov | 2016 | 0.906 Shorter career | 0 | 1x Calder |
Rogie Vachon | 2016 | n/a | 3 | 1x Vezina |
Most of these guys have a bunch of hardware, both in terms of Stanley Cups and individual trophies. Out of the players with no significant individual hardware, all had longer professional careers (in terms of games) than Fleury and amassed more points. Sergei Makarov also has the historical significance of being a really great Russian player.
Looking Ahead
First-time eligible players for Hall of Fame induction in 2017 include Teemu Selanne, who’s a slam dunk, and Daniel Alfredsson, who has a strong case. Beyond that? Mark Recchi, Dave Andreychuk, Pierre Turgeon, Jeremy Roenick, Bernie Nicholls, Vincent Damphousse and Rod Brind’Amour all have more career points than Fleury.
How do they compare to Fleury in a wider sense?
Player | Points Per Game | Stanley Cups | Trophies |
Teemu Selanne | 1.004 Longer career | 1 | 1x Calder 1x Masterton 3x Goal-Scoring Leader |
Daniel Alfredsson | 0.929 Longer career | 0 | 1x Calder 1x King Clancy |
Mark Recchi | 0.928 Longer career | 3 | None |
Dave Andreychuk | 0.816 Longer career | 1 | None |
Pierre Turgeon | 1.026 Longer career | 0 | 1x Lady Byng |
Jeremy Roenick | 0.892 Longer career | 0 | None |
Bernie Nicholls | 1.073 Longer career | 0 | None |
Vincent Damphousse | 0.874 Longer career | 1 | None |
Rod Brind’Amour | 0.798 Longer career | 1 | 2x Selke |
Based on electing guys with long careers with a lot of pretty good seasons but no super-elite years (Ciccarelli, Oates, Howe, Sundin, Modano, Housley), it seems like Fleury’s in tough over the next year or two of Hall of Fame voting. Selanne is a lock, while Alfredsson will likely be voted in, leaving just two spots for 2017.
Sum It Up
There have been stronger candidates for the Hall of Fame than Fleury for every year of his eligibility so far, and there are enough eligible players that have as good a case as he does for induction that the next couple years could continue to see Fleury get shut out of the Hall.
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