POST GAME: HOW THE? WHAT THE? WE’LL TAKE IT!

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME!? 

Aside from that incontinence-inducing save, I don’t think this game will be used in many goaltending clinics in the near future that’s for sure. There were some weird goals tonight in a game where the Flames beat the Caps 4-3 in OT

The Flames won a game that I had thought they had lost at least on two different occasions thanks to an overtime goal from Sean Monahan. The Flames continue to win when people least expect them to and are now FOUR GAMES ABOVE .500 ARE YOU SERIOUS?! 

Come see how the Flames managed this after the jump!

WHAT WENT DOWN

There was a lot of anxiety about whether or not Gaudreau was going to play tonight as he missed the morning skate with the flu. If he wasn’t able to go, McGrattan would have taken his spot so needless to say everyone was pretty relieved when Gaudreau came out for the warmups. Gaudreau was used sparingly throughout the game but had some moments where he looked dangerous. Get better soon Johnny…

The caps, coming off of an ugly loss to the coyotes, started the game by dominating the Flames for the first half of the period. Even though the Caps controlled play, they weren’t able to generate any really good scoring chances and the Flames were able to make them pay. The fourth line of the Flames had a pretty good shift and Lance Bouma, who had just flown into his own bench on a comically bad attempt at a body check, cleaned up a Kris Russell point shot and put the Flames in front 1-0. 

However, that didn’t last long. 1:09 later. the Caps resumed controlling the play and Nicklas Backstrom tipped home an Ovechkin point shot and tied the game at 1. With that assist, Ovie became the all-time points leader in Caps history.

Unsurprisingly, Deryk Engelland was an adventure in the first, not exactly justifying the decision to swap him out for Diaz after the win over the Habs. All things considered, the Flames did a pretty good job of holding a clearly motivated Caps team to just one goal and few really good chances. 

The Caps outshot the Flames 13-10 after the first and generally controlled play well. The Flames possession stats were uh, not great through 1 (love the response to our buddy Mike’s tweet here):

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The second started off mostly the same with the Caps controlling play and having a few good chances early on. One of the most noteworthy events of the early second was a particularly spirited bout between Engelland and Liam O’Brien. Both were throwing haymakers and Engelland landed a nasty uppercut. The fight seemingly came out of no where which was kinda weird but the youngster O’Brien showed some courage for taking on a much more experienced pugilist in Engelland, who may be bad at playing defense but can punch well (and has a great stache at the moment). 

Halfway through the second, Mark Giordano made a great move around Tom Wilson and shoveled a backhander past Holtby to put the Flames back in front 2-1. David Jones, who looked pretty good all game, made a nice play and chalked up an assist for his efforts. Mark Giordano is amazing and everyone should shave their heads in tribute to him.

Then, because we can’t have nice things, the Caps drew even 40 seconds later when Hiller managed to bat the puck into his own net. Meh, after what Hiller has given the Flames so far this season he is allowed a few of these.

After the Flames were already a man down from a Glencross roughing call (that began with a fairly nasty elbow from Ovechkin if you ask me) Wideman chucked a puck over the glass and the Caps went two men up. You can guess what happened next. Joel Ward put the Caps ahead 3-2 on a cross crease feed. Half of Ward’s goals this year have come against the friggen Flames if it seems like he is always scoring on the Flames. 

Brandon Bollig took an absolutely bone-headed hooking penalty at the end of the second period which the Flames were able to kill but I had to mention it because it was really dumb. The second ended with the Caps out-shooting the Flames 24-16. 

The Flames started the third listlessly and the Caps had two or three good chances in the first five minutes of the period. The Caps were able to slow things to a grinding halt for the majority of the third and take advantage of the lack of firepower from the Flames.

It all looked as though the Flames would be ground into dust in this one and then, outta nowhere, the hockey gods repay the Caps for their second goal by granting the Flames the equalizer which was credited to Markus Granlund but went in off of Troy Brouwer. You have to love the reaction of the Caps broadcast here:

The game really opened up towards the end of the game and then, as time was expiring, Jonas Hiller made an absolutely unbelievable save to get the game into overtime. It was crazy good. He is absolved of all wrongdoing on goal number two. 

The game headed to overtime which was crazy fun to watch. Matt Niskanen fell down which gave the Flames a 2 on 1 which saw Jooris feed Monahan to win the game. Here it is, praise be to Jooris for that play and Monahan for the finish.

THE RED WARRIOR

Jonas Hiller should get consideration for battling through those bounces and making that unbelievable save with 1 second remaining and look, we could give this to Brodano every single game so I am going to go a bit off the board with this one. I liked David Jones this game and I think he’s been pretty good since returning from injury this season. Jones had an assist tonight and looked generally good on a night that the Flames didn’t exactly show much life offensively.

Monahan has looked great in the circle this season and obviously he gets some love for that OT winner and Jooris played really well again tonight. 

Sadly, Baertschi was invisible again tonight and I am not sure all of the blame can be laid at the feet of Setoguchi. At some point, he needs to show that he is capable of driving play forward and show his skill with the puck. In the third, Sven was benched by Hartley which obviously isn’t going to help the kid get his legs at the NHL level. Sorry to be a downer..

SCORING CHANCES

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Team Period Time Note Home Away State
Away 1 18:06 Byron 25 42 65 70 74 88 1 6 15 22 27 32 5v5
Home 1 17:42 Beagle 46 70 74 83 87 88 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Home 1 16:19 Kutznetzov 2 20 27 70 90 92 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Home 1 11:28 Green 25 42 52 65 70 88 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Away 1 10:51 Bouma goal 44 46 70 74 83 87 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 1 10:02 Latta 2 27 43 46 70 87 1 15 19 20 29 60 5v5
Home 1 9:43 Backstrom goal 2 8 19 27 43 70 1 15 19 20 29 60 5v5
Home 1 6:17 Ovechkin 2 8 27 46 70 83 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Away 1 5:29 Granlund 20 70 74 88 90 92 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Away 1 5:20 Gaudreau 20 70 74 88 90 92 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Home 1 2:16 Wilson 43 46 52 70 87 88 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 2 17:40 O’Brien 46 70 74 83 87 88 1 15 17 25 29 86 5v5
Home 2 16:59 Ovechkin 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 2 16:58 Ovechkin 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Away 2 16:50 Jones 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Away 2 16:49 Jones 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 2 14:00 Wilson 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 2 13:06 Green 8 19 44 52 70 1 4 6 23 86 4v4
Home 2 10:29 Latta 2 27 46 70 83 90 1 4 6 13 24 60 5v5
Away 2 9:41 Giordano goal 8 19 43 44 52 70 1 5 7 19 20 23 5v5
Home 2 6:31 Burakovsky 2 42 65 70 74 92 1 5 7 32 86 5v4
Home 2 6:23 Niskanen 2 42 65 70 74 92 1 5 7 32 86 5v4
Home 2 5:52 Brouwer 8 19 20 42 52 70 1 5 7 17 5v3
Home 2 5:46 Ovechkin 8 19 20 42 52 70 1 5 7 17 5v3
Home 2 5:38 Ward goal 8 19 20 42 52 70 1 5 7 17 5v3
Away 2 5:09 Byron 8 42 52 65 70 92 1 15 29 32 86 5v4
Home 2 0:06 Backstrom 8 19 20 52 70 90 1 5 7 23 86 5v4
Home 3 19:26 Brouwer 8 19 20 52 70 90 1 5 7 17 60 5v4
Home 3 18:14 Latta 44 46 70 74 83 87 1 4 6 13 24 32 5v5
Home 3 16:08 43 2 8 19 27 43 70 1 5 7 17 25 86 5v5
Away 3 11:39 Smid 2 27 46 70 83 87 1 15 20 23 29 86 5v5
Away 3 6:12 Monahan deflection 2 27 46 70 83 87 1 5 7 20 23 24 5v5
Away 3 4:23 Glencross 2 20 27 70 90 92 1 5 7 20 23 24 5v5
Home 3 4:07 Backstrom 2 8 19 27 43 70 1 5 7 17 32 86 5v5
Home 3 2:18 Carlson 19 25 42 44 70 74 1 4 6 20 23 24 5v5
Home 3 0:01 Wilson 8 19 43 44 70 74 1 4 6 20 23 24 5v5
Home 4 3:32 Johansson 2 27 70 90 92 1 4 6 13 32 4v4
Home 4 2:24 Carlson tip 20 65 70 74 88 1 5 7 20 86 4v4
Home 4 1:38 Ward 25 42 52 70 88 1 4 6 22 60 4v4
Home 4 1:20 Ward tip 2 25 42 52 70 1 4 7 24 32 4v4
Away 4 0:44 Monahan goal 2 8 19 52 70 1 4 7 23 86 4v4
# Player EV PP SH
1 HILLER, JONAS   11 22   0 0   1 7
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 24:37 3 9 00:52 0 0 00:19 0 0
5 GIORDANO, MARK 20:59 6 7 01:08 0 0 03:24 0 7
6 WIDEMAN, DENNIS 23:44 3 8 01:29 0 0 00:19 0 0
7 BRODIE, TJ 22:46 7 8 00:31 0 0 03:49 0 7
13 GAUDREAU, JOHNNY 10:23 2 4 00:52 0 0 00:00 0 0
15 SMID, LADISLAV 11:46 2 6 00:00 0 0 01:21 1 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 14:00 0 6 00:00 0 0 02:51 0 4
19 JONES, DAVID 15:05 4 6 01:08 0 0 00:00 0 0
20 GLENCROSS, CURTIS 20:12 7 9 00:54 0 0 00:14 0 0
22 SETOGUCHI, DEVIN 10:08 1 1 00:52 0 0 00:00 0 0
23 MONAHAN, SEAN 19:12 8 7 01:06 0 0 00:52 0 1
24 HUDLER, JIRI 15:02 4 6 01:08 0 0 00:00 0 0
25 BOLLIG, BRANDON 09:31 0 5 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
27 BAERTSCHI, SVEN 07:29 1 0 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
29 ENGELLAND, DERYK 10:49 1 6 00:00 0 0 00:56 1 0
32 BYRON, PAUL 13:53 1 4 00:00 0 0 01:45 1 2
60 GRANLUND, MARKUS 13:45 2 5 00:00 0 0 02:02 0 1
86 JOORIS, JOSH 16:27 2 8 00:00 0 0 01:59 1 3
Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 4 7 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 4 12 3 6 0 0 0 3 1 3 0 0
3 3 6 3 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
4 1 4 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

ZONE ENTRIES

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WHAT’S NEXT?

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The Flames’ road record in an insanely good 6-2-0 which is amazing.The Flames continue their trip against Stamkos, Drouin, and like 400 more skilled Europeans on the Lightning on Thursday, 5:30 MT start.

  • Jeff Lebowski

    Obviously Sven needs to be able to play with the puck and make plays in offensive zone. It seems like little unlucky things are preventing it.

    I’m sure it happened in jr too. But the beauty of up tempo hockey is so many chances to make something happen. Eventually it does. I bet he can remember how to get back on a roll, just like old times.

    Can’t wait!!!

  • jeremywilhelm

    You’ll never find a bigger Sven supporter than me. And eve I think he looks like dog poop out there.

    Whether it’s pouting or doubt or fear, he’s gotta push through. Because he looks like a shadow of his former elite ability.

  • RedMan

    I think Hiller should get a rest for next game, he’s been excellent.

    Baertschi has been given a great opportunity to prove that they were wrong to send him down to Adirondack. But so far, he’s still not looking confident.. I really doubt it’s Hartley at this point. He just needs a little more time like Backlund did.

  • Bean-counting cowboy

    I’m not too concerned about poor possession numbers right now. The reason is because there are so many young rookies still learning the game. As they progress the possession will come. After half a season many of the young players could be MUCH better possession wise compared to now. I find it tough to evaluate a young team of rookies based off stats from previous games simply because it doesn’t take into consideration the learning/improving effect of players like Ferland, Granlund, Gaudreau, Beartchi, Jooris, Monahan etc.

    I think it’s more predictive when you’re looking at an established team. that’s just my opinion. Either way this has been a fun ride!

    • Jeff Lebowski

      I should add that I do not think Hiller can sustain his level of play throughout the entire year (but I sure hope he does).

      Hiller for Vezna, Giordano for Norris, Gaudreau for Calder… it could happen. The trifector.

  • Jeff Lebowski

    Are people not noticing how many young kids are in the lineup? I would imagine the games are hard. How does brow beating every single (ultimately insignificant) mistake or metric help anyone or anything?

    They won.

    Get behind them. It’s better that way. I think.

    • piscera.infada

      I would be lying if I didn’t say I was concerned as to how sustainable a lot of this is.

      To your point though, I’m of the mind that winning is always better for the development of the young players in the line-up than bottoming out. Frankly, this team needs to learn to win. So while in all likelihood, they’ll still finish out of playoff spot, as fans, we should just enjoy the ride. The fact that this team could be playing meaningful games past Christmas, will only help their development, not hinder it.

  • JBudd

    Anyone notice that Kulak was sent down to the ECHL? Seems a bit odd considering how good he looked at times in pre season. Thought he would be ahead of Culkin in the pecking order for sure.

  • piscera.infada

    It’s funny to me that so many of the people who disagreed over moving Sven before the start of the season are now all over the kid. From hero to goat, I guess that’s how it goes.

    I don’t think Sven has an attitude problem as so many on here think. He’s just lost all confidence. Yes, obviously there’s onus on a player to succeed, but so much is proper development and Sven’s development is a text book example of, “how not to do it.”

    Generally, a prospect will:

    – Get cut from camp, play in a development league.

    – Maybe make it out of camp, struggle a bit, get sent down part way through the season.

    – Next season, make it right out of camp.

    – Realize his potential.

    Now to look at Sven’s case. Basically, see above, but read from bottom to top:

    – 3 goals in 5 games.

    – Makes it out of camp.

    – Next season, gets cut from camp.

    – Unable to realize potential.

    In other words, the exact opposite of how his development should’ve gone.

    Yes, Sven should be scoring in the AHL. I totally agree with that, but development is still huge. After all, how many prospects did the Flames turn out for 2 decades starting from the mid-90’s? It’s no coincidence the team also had no development system (or a very craptastic one, but nowhere close to what they have now). Were all of Calgary’s picks that bad back then or would proper development have helped? We’ll never know, but to me it 100% drafting AND 100% development. A team needs to both to have success.

    Detroit, on the other hand, has invested heavily in development for decades and is still turning out incredible prospects today. Lucky drafting? Great drafting? That all plays a part, but they develop their players very well.

    The reason I wanted Sven moved was to take from a strength (LW) and address a weakness (D). However, that doesn’t mean I didn’t like the player. Sven’s talent hasn’t gone anywhere. He’s still capable of great things. I can’t believe that one poster actually stated he was slow. WTF? Slow?

    I also feel he’s never been in Hartley’s or BB’s good books. Not that they have it out for him, but they chose to use him as an example last year even though his numbers were every bit as good as Monahan’s. So maybe a change of scenery is in order.

    I guess I’m just baffled by all the bandwagon fans out there. You suggest trading him while he has high value and you get trashed, but now it’s suddenly popular to dump him for a bag of pucks and he’s a whiner and a head-case. First, he’s “Sven-sational,” and then he’s warmed over dog crap when he struggles and it’s all his fault.

    Sven needs to step up and get back to the 12 points in 7 games player he showed he could be last year, but the team has really killed his trade value. They need to sit down with Sven and come up with a plan to get him back on track, whether that means keeping him or moving him. But accusing him of being a pouty child without being in the room seems like a stretch to me.

    • everton fc

      I think he’s a god kid who’s been made to feel he deserves more, perhaps from the parent or agent. Happens.

      The greatest play through a this type of adversity. The real-time difference we have in the organization, when it comes to the kids, is Ferland vs. Baertschi. That’s how I see it. But I agree with the balance of your post. Sven simply has to earn his time here. Sometimes it doesn’t work out for high picks. Ever. Which is why I referenced Zach Boychuk, as a comparison.

  • Bean-counting cowboy

    Totally agree. We had Johnny struggle first five games- send him down! Goes on a hot streak – give him the calder! Sven gets cut at the end of camp – our organization is backwards! Gets called up, pointless in two games – trade him!

    Let’s try to keep our emotions in check, there’s a reason Toronto has seen career lows from so many players. Ten games is usually a good gauge. But even then, Iggy had plenty of ten game cold spells.

    That being said a Sven for gormley or Larsson trade would be amazing!

  • Burnward

    What are the odds this team comes home 11-5-2?

    60-40 for?

    At worst, 10-6-2.

    But if it’s 12-4-2, I think we need to have a serious Eric Staal discussion.

    • Bean-counting cowboy

      No thanks.

      Flames have more depth down the middle than they have ever had.

      Our centre prospects are improving, while Staal is declining

      The cost would be egregious

      We aren’t winning the cup this year (I think)

      Patience should be the mantra. Like Tampa a few years ago they made the East final. Instead of Yzerman going balls to the wall crazy, he stayed the course and continued to build. Look at them now.

      We are not yet at the point of trading significant assets for the present. One injury to Gio and Brodie could see us freefall in the standings.

  • icedawg_42

    A bit off topic:

    Really cool article in the Herold today, interviewing Fleury on Gaudreau. I worshiped Theo when I was growing up, and it’s super cool to listen to him fawning over the player who I’m now completely fixated with.

    Theo truly is good stuff.

  • icedawg_42

    “Egregious”… Such an Elliott Friedman thing to say… Which is better than Pierre McGuire at least but still…. 😉

    On Sven: he needs to skate more, engage in plays rather than waiting for them to come to him… He’ll be fine, but he needs to translate either his game or his attitude to the nhl and fast

    On “Burke players”: Burke players are by and large placeholders which is in and of itself a great testiment to the fact that he recognizes the value of feaster and weisebrods picks. Austin Carroll shows promise tho.