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FlamesNation prospect update: the finale

Has it really been six months since it all started? I guess so.

In case you missed it

Rasmus Andersson – D, Stockton Heat, AHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 56 9 30 39 24 22 15 26.84
Change from last week 3 1 0 1 1 1 1 -0.79

Just one goal in Andersson’s return to the AHL. Hopefully his last, in a good way.

Austin Carroll – RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 42 5 2 7 7 6 6 6.42
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.5

Returned to the lineup with Hunter Shinkaruk and Morgan Klimchuk absent. Didn’t do that much.

Dillon Dube – C/LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 6 0 4 4 4 2 2 25.69
Change from last week 3 0 2 2 2 1 1 0

It is extremely promising to see how Dube has seamlessly slid into the Heat’s top six and how productive he was fresh off a WHL playoff series. Small sample size and all, but wow.

Spencer Foo – RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 62 20 19 39 16 33 12 24.24
Change from last week 3 0 2 2 0 2 0 +0.07

Foo is also back in town to try and save the season. Perhaps he carries the good vibes from his two goals down to California.

Glenn Gawdin – C/RW, Swift Current Broncos, WHL

Gawdin and the Broncos are off to the third round of the WHL playoffs, having defeated the mighty Moose Jaw Warriors in a down to the wire series. Gawdin has picked up 20 points through 14 games, including four in last night’s decisive 6-0 victory. He will go onto face the Lethbridge Hurricanes in the third round of the WHL playoffs.

Josh Healey – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 50 0 4 4 3 3 2 3.08
Change from last week 3 0 1 1 1 1 1 +0.62

Got the assist on the final Stockton goal of the year, his fourth of the season.

D’Artagnan Joly – RW, Stockton Heat, AHL

Didn’t play at all! For comparison, his QMJHL teammate but AHL rival (San Jose Barracuda, who are going to the playoffs instead of Stockton) Ivan Chekhovich put up nine points in six games on a team that finished next to last in goals for all season. Perhaps they had something secret stashed in Baie-Comeau.

Morgan Klimchuk – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 62 19 21 40 23 31 19 24.86
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Klimchuk was apparently injured for the last few games of the year. Bummer.

Oliver Kylington – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 62 7 28 35 23 24 17 21.76
Change from last week 3 1 1 2 1 2 1 +0.2

Kylington’s strong finish to the season means that he finished around Andersson’s totals in the categories of 5v5 points per game, primary points per game, and 5v5 primary points per game. That’s insanely good, especially given that it is presumed Andersson is making the jump next season. Perhaps the Flames could create a stellar third pairing of homegrown talent.

Linus Lindstrom – C/LW, Skelleftea AIK, SHL

Skelleftea has made the SHL finals, partly thanks to Lindstrom and his four assists. They’ll face Vaxjo in a best-of-seven, starting today.

Ryan Lomberg – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 57 13 15 28 20 20 13 18.93
Change from last week 3 3 1 4 2 4 2 +1.8

Lomberg finished the season strong, picking up seven points in his last six games. Potential dark horse for a guy making the jump next season?

Andrew Mangiapane – LW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 39 21 25 46 26 35 22 45.46
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Season shut down after shoulder surgery.

Mitchell Mattson – C/LW, Sioux Falls Stampede, USHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 53 9 12 21 16 19 14 9.1
Change from last week 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.74

Played in four games last week, but was held off the scoresheet.

Adam Ollas Mattsson – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Probably not back next season.

Matthew Phillips – C/RW, Victoria Royals, WHL

Phillips was swept at the hands of Juuso Valimaki and the mighty Tri-City Americans. Phillips picked up three assists in the proceedings, a tamer output than his 16 points in the series before.

Emile Poirier – LW/RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 65 7 24 31 21 21 13 18.38
Change from last week 3 1 4 5 3 3 1 +2.22

An explosive finish for Poirier, whose scoring was scant before the final two weeks of the season. Has he played himself back into the Flames’ plans?

Brett Pollock – LW/C, Stockton Heat, AHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 46 10 10 20 10 15 7 16.76
Change from last week 3 0 1 1 0 1 0 -0.27

Just an assist for Pollock this week. Really good season for him, all things considered.

Daniel Pribyl – RW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Spent the whole season on IR. Probably won’t see him again, which is a shame. He was once the Flames’ #1 RW prospect.

Adam Ruzicka – C/LW, Sarnia Sting, OHL

Sarnia’s postseason run has come to an end at the hands of the Kitchener Rangers, losing 4-2 in the second round. Ruzicka has been underwhelming this post-season, having picked up only three assists in 12 games.

Hunter Shinkaruk – F, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 63 17 15 32 19 26 17 19.58
Change from last week 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Shinkaruk didn’t suit up for any of the final three Stockton Heat games, unknown why. If it’s a healthy scratch, it’s probably not good.

Juuso Valimaki – D, Tri-City Americans, WHL

Has been injured. Hopefully, he’ll return in time for a powerhouse matchup between Tri-City and Everett. Five points in six games.

Tyler Wotherspoon – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Current 67 7 30 37 18 19 10 22.28
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.46

Just an assist for Wotherspoon this week.

Jon Gillies – G, Stockton Heat

Current 39 2230.63 .917 1130
Change from last week 3 178.6 +.001 94

The only Flames goalie to play this week. Gillies came up big in Stockton’s desperate drive for the playoffs, posting a .917, .931, and a .933 in the final three games. He might have played himself into a roster spot next season.

And that’s a wrap! Thank you for tuning in for the entire season. Prospect wrap-ups will follow shortly.

  • JMK

    If it’s any consolation to Ruzicka’s poor return in the playoffs, Jordan Kyrou also had a bad total. Perhaps they were on same line and the others teams did a great job of shutting them down. He’s still 18, looking forward to another OHL season and see if he can become a leader in 3rd WJC

  • Korcan

    I think Mangiapane’s chances of making the Flames opening day roster will weigh on how well he recovers from shoulder surgery and how much quality off-season training he can get in. I wont be surprised to see him start in Stockton, but if he gets on an early tear (I.e. Jankowski) and the Flames start out slow it won’t be long before he sees the NHL. I wish him well

    • Intercourse the Penguins

      Mangiapane is not slippery and crafty enough to stay off long term IR in the AHL. Dube, Phillips, Lomberg(for his style of play) may also be too small to play in the NHL(especially in the playoffs). When the Flames were known as “the Land of the Giants” they had very large players surrounding small guys named Loob. Mullen, Gilmour and Fleury. Size matters. The Flames got pushed around all this year and had no push back. Yes speed and skill are paramount but so is aggression and deterence.

      • Heeeeeere's Johnny!

        For sure Phillips is questionable. In the words of the BB Un-Tie, Matthew Phillips would have to grow 3 inches to be considered small.

        Dube I disagree with. His size is quoted as 5-11 and 186. That is plenty big enough. He may need some additional weight to continue to play the way he plays now but I don’t worry about him at all.

      • Baalzamon

        “size size size size size”

        It might interest you to know that the Flames were both taller and heavier than the Ducks last season. Every grit acquisition this team has made (except maybe Hamonic) has been awful. It’s past time people began to detect the pattern here.

        The Flames need more Dubes. Not more Brouwers.

      • everton fc

        If Lomberg can tone down his aggression, and stick to hockey, he has the speed to play in the NHL. And he has his edge. Still don’t see him making the jump, but he might, in a 4th line role (somewhere), because he can skate.

  • ThisBigMouthIsRight

    The only thing I don’t like about the prospect update is that its solely points centered and biased on stats that don’t include player usage, like if someone is used as a defensive/shut down forward or PK guy.
    There is no eye test to (actually) see what they bring to the team other than “points”, I’m not sure that some of the prospect slagging on here is accurately fair unless they have had the full opportunity to watch them actually play, not just make judgment calls based on a points stat sheet without ever watching them play and understanding what that players roll is on the team…
    That’s all.

    • cjc

      Since it’s impossible to watch most of these guys play (unless you live in Stockton), points are about all we have to go on. Also, I don’t see the author “slagging” any of the prospects, unless you consider the commentaries on Carroll and Ruzicka “slagging”. For the most part it seems to be factual presentation of the data.

      • ThisBigMouthIsRight

        Yes I do consider it Slagging, and Yes Anyone can get an AHL Package and watch all the Heat games.
        But Stats and Corsi people like yourself can’t seem to look beyond the paper at the actual product on the ice. That is exactly what we got with GG and why we are where we are today. Corsi and Stats are nothing more than a tool to *Help* evaluate progress and should Never be the Only way to gauge players/teams performance.
        Hockey is played on ice, not just paper.

        • Baalzamon

          You have a very, very interesting idea of what constitutes slagging. “Didn’t do that much” and “has been underwhelming” –that last regarding a player expected to produce who got just 3 points in 12 games–is extremely mild as far as commentary goes.

          Slagging would be “Ruzicka was preposterously horrible” or “Carroll is a complete and utter waste of human tissue and hair.”

          Take special note of how no one is saying anything close to either of those things.

        • freethe flames

          I don’t know if he slags everyone but he certainly has some he dismisses some players even if they have had good weeks. Frequently I just think it’s lazy reporting; yes you can’t watch every game but you can do more than just look at the stat lines. I frequently look at the highlights of the Heat; almost every game, I read what SF has to say about the Heat, I read the post game quotes on the Heat, I read the Flames reports, and I listen to the odd game from doing this I could do a more in depth report on the Heat.

          • ThisBigMouthIsRight

            You might be able to write the $200 off as a business expense since its work related.
            But really whats the point then Christian, you already know everything about these guys why watch the games at all? Just read the stat sheets and presto, just like Janko would never see an NHL game?
            Everyone here appreciates the effort and work you put in here Christian, its just some of us believe there is more to the game of Hockey than just points and stats that matter….
            I Want To Believe, you do too.
            Have a good one Christian, I’ll still look forward to your next report even if I don’t always agree with your opinions of the assessments of all the players…

          • freethe flames

            Christian the issue is if you are going to a job you could put a little more effort into it. Some of what you said requires more work and less opinion. Your discussion on AOM never discusses his injury and basically writes him off, last weeks discussion on Poirier did little to discuss the good week he had yet you praised other guys lesser weeks. I don’t begrudge you your opinion on guys but it would be good to do a little more homework.

          • freethe flames

            how about something like this “Having been injured since December with a shoulder injury he has not played based upon this and his performance when he did play and the depth on D in this organization I think it highly unlikely he will return.

            or last week on Poirier: Poirier had a very good week this with ?G and ?(I don’t recall the numbers hence the ?);this came after he was a healthy scratch. Will this be enough to help salvage his career? It’s hard to say but I(you Christain) think the Flames should move on from him.
            Nothing I said is earth shattering but it is slightly more informative and would help I think those who don’t follow the Heat understand them a bit better. Again I don’t watch or listen to every Heat game but I do read SF, I do read the Flames farm report and try to follow the Heat highlights and comments and then draw my conclusions; probably an hour a week.

          • Not sure if you’ve ever heard of brevity, but I’m pretty sure I said the exact same thing about AOM in fewer words than that. He’s not coming back. If you’ve read the last ten or twelve prospect updates, you probably know why. Again, you said you do a lot of prospect reading, so I feel that it didn’t need to be said why exactly he’s not coming back.

            And good for you for reading blogs. I do those things too, with a bit more on top. We all have our ways of forming opinions. Still unclear what you’re complaining about other than “we don’t have the same opinion”

  • BlueMoonNigel

    Valimaki injured again. Any concerns we’ve got a glass man wrapped in egg shells or just a guy who didn’t recover properly from one injury before being sent back into combat?