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FlamesNation Prospect Update: Jump for Jo(l)y

The fabulously named D’Artagnan rose from the depth of the doghouse back to the top of the Baie-Comeau depth chart. All in a tidy span of two weeks.

In case you missed it:

Zach Fischer – RW, Kansas City Mavericks, ECHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 5 0 1 1 1 1 1 5.49
Change from last week 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 -6.89

Played in three games, but didn’t pick up any points.

Spencer Foo – RW, Stockton Heat, AHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 4 3 7 3 6 3 21.46
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -3.9

Foo’s inconsistency thus far is almost certainly holding him back from any future NHL action. Obviously, there’s no space for him right now, but could anyone make a convincing argument for him as the second recall behind Mangiapane?

Glenn Gawdin – C/RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 4 2 6 2 6 2 18.39
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -3.35

Also no points for Gawdin.

Josh Healey – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 11 0 1 1 1 0 0 3.62
Change from last week 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.37

Only played one game, healthy scratched for the other.

D’Artagnan Joly – RW/C, Baie-Comeau Drakkar, QMJHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 21 10 10 20 13 16 11 22.18
Change from last week 3 2 3 5 4 5 4 +2.77

After a rough two weeks, in which he was healthy scratched, publicly called out by his coach, and placed on fourth line duty, Joly rebounded this week to his 2017-18 self, picking up a boatload of primary points in an all around dominant weekend for the Drakkar. It’s a good start, but hopefully he can build consistency and reestablish himself as one of the QMJHL’s better players.

Pavel Karnaukhov – LW/C, CSKA Moscow, KHL/Zvezda, VHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date (KHL) 8 1 2 3 3 2 2 24.72
Change from last week
Up to date (VHL) 7 3 1 4 4 4 4 17.81
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 -0.89

Back in the VHL as the KHL is on international break. Scored a goal.

Morgan Klimchuk – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 9 1 2 3 2 1 1 13.28
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -3.8

Returned from injury, but didn’t make an impact on the scoresheet.

Demetrious Koumontzis – LW, Arizona State University, NCAA (Independent)

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 12 1 6 7 2 7 2 17.27
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -3.45

Another quiet week for Koumontzis.

Oliver Kylington – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 5 5 10 8 9 8 30.66
Change from last week 2 2 1 3 3 3 3 +5.3

A monster game for Kylington against Ontario, where he picked up two goals and an assist in the 5-1 victory. It’s a shame there’s no space in the NHL to see what he is.

Linus Lindstrom – C/LW, Skelleftea AIK, SHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 15 1 0 1 1 1 1 2.13
Change from last week

International break.

Ryan Lomberg – LW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 2 3 5 3 4 2 15.33
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 +0.84

Picked up his second goal in as many weeks:

Andrew Mangiapane – LW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 11 5 7 12 8 9 7 43.47
Change from last week

Injured.

Mitchell Mattson – C/LW, Michigan State, NCAA (Big 10)

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Change from last week

Didn’t play in either of MSU’s games this weekend. There’s no injury report, but he has missed half of the Spartans’ games. Probably not a good sign.

Adam Ollas Mattsson – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 0 2 2 2 1 1 6.13
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1.12

Not much on-ice for AOM this week.

Mathias Emilio Pettersen – C/LW, Denver Pioneers, NCAA (NCHC)

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 8 4 8 12 5 7 3 54
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 -8

For the first time this season, MEP was held pointless in a hockey game. Bummer.

Matthew Phillips – RW, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 10 1 1 2 2 1 1 7.97
Change from last week 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 +7.97

Picked up his first pro point and goal this weekend, and had another pretty good breakaway chance to get #3.

Martin Pospisil – C/LW, Sioux City Musketeers, USHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 15 8 18 26 14 18 8 39.8
Change from last week 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 -4.35

Pospisil’s high flying start to the season was halted in its tracks at game 15, the first game of the year when he did not manage to score a single point. He’s still tied for the league lead in scoring with linemate Bobby Brink.

Brett Pollock – LW/C, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 10 0 2 2 2 1 1 7.97
Change from last week 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 +2.99

Picked up another assist this week.

Rushan Rafikov – D, Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, KHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 20 2 3 5 4 3 3 16.48
Change from last week 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.87

Just a game for RR before the international break.

Milos Roman – C, Vancouver Giants, WHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 19 8 6 14 8 11 5 18.25
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -2.14

The Giants only scored two goals this weekend, and Roman was involved in neither of them.

Adam Ruzicka – C/LW, Sarnia Sting, OHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 18 3 15 18 8 10 6 26.49
Change from last week 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 0

While it is positive that Ruzicka has managed to maintain a point-per-game pace throughout the season (especially when he was rightfully criticized for consistency since from before his draft year to as recently as last season), it’s not as positive that a lot of those points are a) powerplay points and b) secondary powerplay points. Although his shooting percentage is at an all time low (5.56%), it is concerning that he is unable to generate offence at any other game state.

Kerby Rychel – F, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 13 6 3 9 5 6 4 27.59
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 -5.02

Nothing for Rychel this week. I know I said that opportunities may be running out for Spencer Foo above, but is anyone going to be able to step up to the recall plate besides Mangiapane?

Filip Sveningsson – LW, IK Oskarshamn, Allsvenskan

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 15 7 8 15 5 11 5 48.87
Change from last week

International break. Here’s a cool interview (google translated) about his full-time move to pro men’s hockey to tide you over.

Eetu Tuulola – RW, HPK, SM-Liiga

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 20 6 9 15 8 9 5 27.8
Change from last week

International break. In the long shot that anyone here speaks Finnish, I would love a translation of this video of Eetu playing Q&A with one of his linemates.

Rinat Valiev – D, Stockton Heat

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Change from last week 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Played two games.

Dmitri Zavgorodniy – C/LW, Rimouski Oceanic, QMJHL

GP G A P 5v5 P P1 5v5 P1 NHLe
Up to date 21 12 18 30 16 21 11 33.27
Change from last week 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 -1.05

A point-per-game week for Big Z. He’ll head off to represent Team Russia in their two-game bout against the best of the QMJHL this week.

Jon Gillies – G, Stockton Heat

GP TOI SV%
Up to date 11 594.27 0.859
Change from last week 2 100 +0.005

Had his undisputed best game of the year, holding Ontario to one goal on 22 shots (0.954%) but followed it up with an unfortunately all-too-familiar stinker when he let in four goals on 23 shots and was pulled for the third period. The man is an enigma.

Mason McDonald – G, Kansas City Mavericks

GP TOI SV%
Up to date 5 306 0.918
Change from last week 2 120 +0.017

Two pretty solid games for McDonald, stopping 33/36 (0.917%) and 26/27 (0.962%) for KC this weekend.

Tyler Parsons – G, Stockton Heat

GP TOI SV%
Up to date 3 146.58 0.831
Change from last week 0 0 0

Out with a UBI.

Nick Schneider – G, Stockton Heat

GP TOI SV%
Up to date 4 242.82 0.907
Change from last week

Played a period for the Heat. Stopped all five shots.

  • J Doge

    I don’t think I’m the only one to notice this but I notice Bennett has deep skill he hasn’t been able to translate to the nhl. I find that instead of using skill and speed to hold the puck to the outside and go around players he just tries to go through them. I don’t always like him on the cycle because he tends to throw away the puck in panicky situations and tries to take it directly through defensemen and it hasn’t been working all that well. Anyone else’s thoughts?

      • TheDallyLama

        For whatever reason Sam is dominant on most nights this year. Maybe he has figured it out? I don’t know. Unfortunately that deep skill hasn’t translated to points yet. It would be dangerous with a capital D to trade him now. Maybe he will just tease us the rest of his career (hopefully not) but I believe it was Elliotte Friedman? Maybe it was someone else I can’t recall but he said something to the likes of. “Maybe Calgary needs to alter expectations. Sam Bennett can be a real effective player playing the 3rd line role, maybe he turns into a 20/20 guy, this can be useful to the flames.” Anyway I am on board with you, I want Sam to bud into the star he can. But if he became the above stated it wouldn’t be so bad I guess. Gfg ?

    • JMK

      What I always noticed, playing a completely different sport I should add, was players from lesser clubs who got promoted to play with better teams, often couldn’t play well with teammates because they were so used to carrying their previous team. Sam Bennett played on a limited Kingston team if I remember correctly, but apart from playing on the same team as McDavid at some point I’ve no idea what kind of teams he played on growing up. Bennett has all the trademarks, in my mind, of a guy who tries to carry the team as if they weren’t good enough. The only times I’ve noticed really good teamwork plays from Bennett has been the brief glimpses of himself and Gaudreau. I think with Bennett an awful lot of his problems with taking the next step are mental.

      • Burnward

        When you look around and your options are Hathaway or a rookie in Janko like much of last season…easy to revert to that.

        He’s a skill guy. It’ll come as he gets players to play with.

        • canadian1967

          So like JMK suggests above, in terms of Sam playing well with Gaudreau.
          It might be that Sam has spent every second year of his Minor Hockey life alternately carrying a team and then the next year playing with McD? Since he has shown that trying to carry a team won’t work for him, and trying too hard definitely isn’t working for Sam, but of course he never will be more than a 3rd liner if he never gets a chance above the 3rd line. I’d really like to see him playing with some guys with skill that he can be the “3rd wheel” for, leading the forecheck, setting the tone etc.

          JG SM SB
          MT EL JN
          MJ MB MF
          AC DR GH

          I think that if Sam had an “actual” opportunity to play with some talent that his game could very well return/develop beyond being “Just” a Heart and Soul guy.

          Lindholm is good enough to carry his own line and this could give us better scoring balance and get Neal going, and as much as Skylardog wants to break up JG and SM, just imagine how slow a line with Monny and Chucky and Neal would be.

          Put Sam on a line with Gaudreau and Monahan and tell him to be a Puck seeking Missile on the Forecheck and then the First Forward back on the backcheck. Keep it simple and earn some points through hard work with guys who can actually do something positive with the puck when you get it to them.

          Just my honest opinion, but feel free to Trash away, Backlund Lovers.

    • MDG1600

      I think you are speaking to hockey IQ. Sam has great tools but struggles applying them effectively. He also struggles to hit the net when he gets an open shot which might reflect low goal scoring confidence. All that said he is still a valuable and effective player that I think can move in and out of the top 6. I said yesterday I don’t think he is ever going to be the elite offensive force one might hope for with a #4 overall pick.

      • Kevin R

        People gotta stop lamenting on where we picked him & realize he is a very solid 3rd liner with grit, some skills & will be paid accordingly. It’s not like he’s going to hold out like Nylander & want 8.5mill per. Bennett will probably get a decent 3rd line level type of contract & I wouldnt hesitate to give him that for 6 years. If we can keep his cap hit under 4.0/mill per that would be fantastic. Not every draft pick will be elite all stars in this league.

        • freethe flames

          I said it last year and it is worth repeating; his development curve reminds me of Backs only grittier. If Bennett can be as good as Backs is defensively and add some O 40-50 points for 5-7 years and be the pain in the butt he is then he will have been a draft pick; if he gives the Flames more then that would be a bonus.

    • Mitchell

      The difference I’ve seen in bennett offesively this season is that he is consistently generating opportunities (not all of them are great) every game. I just think he gets to excited about some opportunities, and just whiffs on them. He could also stand to be more patient with the puck at times to generate better scoring chances rather than being ‘panicky’ as you stated. He might generate more offensively if he were perhaps put on a line with someone who can finish (lindholm, chucky, Monahan, or gaudreau). Having said all that I really like where his game is at away from the puck. Strong on the forecheck, sound defensively (he deserves more time on the pk), a physical presence, decent in the faceoff circle when called upon, and a lot more disciplined.

    • Jobu

      Bennett’s problem is his shot. He does well to skate into the slot but then always holds it just a fraction too long giving the defense the ability to put their stick or body in the way of it.

      Jobu has seen it at least 7 times this season. Shoot faster, Bennett-san.

  • Orrwasbest

    More and more I notice how very thin we are in the prospect pool. This will really show up in a few seasons. Time to stop trading away draft picks and stock the cupboard for the future!

    • Burnward

      Fallacy.
      Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Bennett, Dube, Lindholm, Jankowski, Hanifin, Valimaki, Anderrson…all under 25.

      Phillips/Gawdin/everyone else…just need two or three to be capable NHLers and you can easily fill in the holes.

      The only real issue is goaltending.

      The prospect pool looks thin because they have absolutely nailed it in the last couple years and graduated their high-skill kids.

      • Burnward

        Here’s who I think will be legit, long-term NHLers from our prospect pool:

        Kylington, AOM, Phillips, Sveningson and Mangiapane. Add that to the kids we have now in four years…

        Johny-Mony-Tkachuk
        Bennett-Lindholm-Neal
        Dube-Backlund-Mangiapane
        Pospisil?-Sveningson-Phillips

        Valimaki-Andersson
        Kylington-AOM
        ???- ??

        Gillies
        Parsons

        • Burnward

          Dube/Kylington? Phillips scored at elite levels. Svenignson is a PPG in a men’s league. Tuulola is almost the same. Pospisil is off to a historic start.

          If they were drafted differently would you change your opininion of their ceiling? Prospects are just that. As are projections.

          • Harley Hotchkiss’s Ghost

            “With Andersson and Valimaaki graduated we currently zero blue chip prospects”

            Emilio Pettersen currently leads all true freshman in scoring in the NCAA (Demetrios Koumontzis is third). He’s literally outscoring Joel Farabee a Top. 15 by a wide margin (like he did back when they were 14 years old on South Kent together). If he keeps this up he becomes a blue chip rather quickly, something he’s always been considered outside of last year, preseason last year most scouts had him as a first round projection before the season started last year. We are afterall talking about someone who is the most talented player to ever come out of Norway and was once considered a generational talent even in the USHL ranks. Why he was rendered by Omaha as a 16 year old. Right now his numbers are better than Gaudreau’s his Freshman year.

            Dmitri Zavgorodny is also looking like a homerun as a 7th rounder and it’s nothing new, as a 16 year old in the MHL he actually ourscored Top. 60 picks Grigori Denisenko, Kirill Marchenko and Alexander Khovanov in terms of points per game. Martin Pospisil is literally setting USHL records as well right now and considering he is pushing an NHLe of 40 right now he might go straight into the AHL next year.

            The Flames destroyed the draft last year (in a good way) without any picks in the first three rounds they may have found three or four good to great NHLers and were talking like it’s a problem area for this club…. Brian Burke is gone and is no longer drafting big stiffs anymore, Trelving clearly knows what he’s doing at the draft table.

          • MDG1600

            You need to raise your expectation for a blue chip prospect. All the above are fine prospects but I think most people would consider them longshots to play in the top 1/2 of an NHL roster.

          • Harley Hotchkiss’s Ghost

            I’ve been following the NHL Draft extremely close since 1996, I know what blue chip is trust me. Having played extremely competitive Hockey growing up, I played with players who went on to be blue chip prospects like Eberle, Dubnyk, etc. You need to understand how substantial of a season Emilio Peterson is having for a true freshman. If we were to rank players by NHLe from last years draft he would easily be Top. 3 out of everyone right now. I honesty don’t even think anyone could touch his NHLe of 51.66 to be honest right now. It’s still a small sample size, but those numbers are absurd. Once again Zabgorodny, Pospisil, Sveningsson are all also pushing an NHLe of 35+. If you look historically, players that hit that figure before turning 20 year olds turn into impactful NHLers 60-70% of the time.

  • SgtRoadBlock

    wow we need some Draft picks at the end of this seasons…

    Sale Sale Sale ….. all vets over the age of 29 🙂
    Matty need some Chedder Let’s not turn him into a Leaf story like Nylander next seasons.. man they still need to sign Marner and Matthews lol

  • everton fc

    Amazing that, with Parsons down, and Gillies up and down like a yo-yo… And McDonald showing some steady goaltending, albeit in the ECHL… Perhaps McDonald get s a chance in Stockton, if Parson’s situation is long term, and Schneider sits. To me, they are giving both Gillies and McDonald a lot of minutes – perhaps McDonald proves us all wrong and begins to make a climb into the AHL picture. Look at Jack Campbell in L.A. You never know….

  • everton fc

    Zavgorodniy, Pospisil, Sveningsson are very interesting prospects.

    I think Kylington may be ready to make the jump, but there’s no room.

    I actually wonder sometimes how Lomberg would do up in Calgary, if he’d simply skate and avoid dropping the gloves with guys twice his size. I think he’d draw a lot of penalties. Stockton’s Finest – is he good on the PK?

    • Harley Hotchkiss’s Ghost

      Plus Emilio Pettersson is putting up likely better numbers than those three you mentioned. The NCHC is the best NCAA league according to most predictors by my math (coefficient of 0.42) meaning he currently has a 51.66 NHLe. If he keeps this up it’s really time to get excited, right now I doubt anyone from that entire draft has a better NHLe.

    • Harley Hotchkiss’s Ghost

      NHLe of 30+ is also extremely good for a U20 player, especially U19 players. NHLe of 40+ before U20 are essentially baring injuries can’t miss or an odd case, but 32+ is a really good indicator as well, worse case 40-60% chance. You want to see an NHLe creep towards 40 as they approach 20 years old. Pettersson is currently the top U19 NCAA scorer by PPG, Koumontzis is 6th. Zavgorodniy is 4th in the QMJHL for U19 PPG the three players ahead of him are all first round picks the next two years (Lafreniere, Legare, Pelletier). For a comparison he’s currently well ahead of players like Joe Velano and Alexander Khovanov. NHLe of 30+ in an age group of 18-19 still puts you amongst the top 5-6 of your class and as long as you continue to develop you remain that way.

      Considering where Petterson, Zavgorodniy, Koumontzis, Pospisil are trending I would be surprised if they worse case don’t get two everyday NHLers from that group and if all the stars align they could get four. For a draft that didn’t have a pick before 105 that’s exceptional drafting.

  • canadian1967

    I paid attention to Rafikov in the WJC and the Jr Super Series and thought that he looks like he might be a player to watch in a few years.
    If I was Treliving it might be worth the gamble to bring him over. What’s the worst that could happen?

  • The Real SlimBrodie

    What was the Canucks Elias pettersons nhle? Just wondering for comparison sake. I know the two are not related, but I hope we have the better one so I can bug my friends in a few years lol.

  • ZZMiddle

    Im not sure how many know this, but, for 60 bucks a season you can get all the Heat games on your computer. Also can watch KC Mavericks games for a nominal fee. Watching some of these games goes a long way towards helping folks get an idea of who is actually developing into an NHL player, and who is just being hyped because they were picked.